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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I have not seen this television programme - Please explain...

    Also, typing this on laptop. No auto-text.

















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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    Bunch of memes
    Nope, still making no sense....
    Try again, perhaps with words?
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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Sorry about that folks, didnt get any reports on those spammers, but now dealt with, maybe a PM to me or any other admin/mod if you see em again ??

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by g8ina View Post
    Sorry about that folks, didnt get any reports on those spammers, but now dealt with, maybe a PM to me or any other admin/mod if you see em again ??

    cheers.
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    odd. I def reported both of them this morning.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by mercyground View Post
    odd. I def reported both of them this morning.
    If it was the one that made about 6 posts in a row then edited the spam links into the latest one at around 12pm, I definitely did too at around 5pm the same day.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I have not seen this television programme - Please explain...

    Also, typing this on laptop. No auto-text.
    Comedy show from the 90s starring Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse.

    One of the recurring skits were a bloke who would come out of a shed and address the camera to say "this week I have been mostly eating..." usually completing the sentence with something odd (and at times inedible) - you could consider him a parody to today's vloggers, except it was obviously long before anyone was doing that.

    Another was two blokes who would interrupt a man or couple and repeatedly ask if the man wanted whatever he/they were looking at/talking about at the time in the way of "do you want it, do you sir? Ogh, suits you!".

    If I recall correctly, the latter was popular enough to be reprised for some (if I recall the retailer correctly) Currys ads for people looking at TVs, with them.
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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by BobF64 View Post
    ....

    The internet has stopped people thinking "if you have nothing useful to say, say nothing" and just let them burble whatever inane thoughts enter their heads.
    Someone ought to point that out to the Whitehouse. At least when some anonymous twonk says something inane or daft on Amazon, it doesn't end us as a 10-min "news" item on the TV news.
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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Nope, still making no sense....
    Try again, perhaps with words?
    That is literally a condensed version of one of the shows. For any further information google and youtube are your friends.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    This has been going on since public reviews were allowed, and of course, it's now deeply infested in all the main review sections (Amazon, Holiday, Restaurant, etc etc). Individuals are 'purchased' to provide both positive AND negative reviews.

    "For its part Amazon insists that it uses AI to spot bad actors" --> UTTER CRAP, AMAZON, since the example given - "Justin Fryer outputting five star reviews at an average rate of one every four hours last month, making $15000 in one month" - could have been picked up by a child learning programming (If (User activity > threshold) AND (within TimePeriod) Then FlagToAdmin).
    Amazon are just as guilty as Justin in KNOWINGLY allowing this to happen !!!

    What can we all do?? - Nothing!!...we simply don't have the tech to prevent this since the culprits will simply spam multiple IP's / use VPN's to avoid pattern detection.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    Someone ought to point that out to the Whitehouse. At least when some anonymous twonk says something inane or daft on Amazon, it doesn't end us as a 10-min "news" item on the TV news.
    So, no plans on travelling to the US any time soon then Saracen? His favourite medium is twitter, and that I think is where the rot really set in in terms of dumbing down debate because its message limit dictates it. So everything became about the headline, the soundbite and the hashtag. The focus needs to be on the medium, rather than the users. It's a horrible concept that people at large should give a monkeys what I think in such a banal way. For a president? Well their message is probably better conveyed by more traditional means where the full press release and message can be accurately disseminated.

    "ooh look at my food" "just seen z-list celebrity, omg" "rate my garbage"... etc. It's now at the point where unless you use twitter you can't get customer service from major brands. What a joke. No twitter is a firm candidate for room 101, and long may it burn there. Reams of the BBC is posting other people tweets. That is not news FFS. I'm a fan of the beeb but that crap has to stop. And stop soon thank you please.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe91 View Post
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    What can we all do?? - Nothing!!...we simply don't have the tech to prevent this since the culprits will simply spam multiple IP's / use VPN's to avoid pattern detection.
    I think all we can do is apply V1.0 Common Sense.

    Ignore the numbers of good or bad reviews.

    Then,,consider how much credence you'd give to comments from someone you don't know, outside of net speak. Like some random stranger walking past as you buy a second hand car.

    Does the person seem to know what they're talking about? Do they understand the product? Does it all make sense, and feel right.

    If not, ignore.

    In other words, we have to try to judge the quality of the review. Some are trite rubbish, but others have enough care in them to be worth a critical look.
    A lesson learned from PeterB about dignity in adversity, so Peter, In Memorium, "Onwards and Upwards".

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Last year I purchased some fish oil capsules from "Gloryfeel" via Amazon. They had a deal whereby they would refund the purchase price via PayPal if one left a review afterwards and as we know Amazon doesn't accept PayPal for purchases. Two weeks later glory feel contacted me and said I'd not left a review yet I responded saying it would take several months before I could honestly comment on the perceived efficiency of the capsules. They contacted me again about the same thing I responded in the same way and I was dropped from their "test and evaluation programme".
    It took a little while for the penny to drop that it was some sort of scam to get good reviews.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    I think all we can do is apply V1.0 Common Sense.

    Ignore the numbers of good or bad reviews.

    Then,,consider how much credence you'd give to comments from someone you don't know, outside of net speak. Like some random stranger walking past as you buy a second hand car.

    Does the person seem to know what they're talking about? Do they understand the product? Does it all make sense, and feel right.

    If not, ignore.

    In other words, we have to try to judge the quality of the review. Some are trite rubbish, but others have enough care in them to be worth a critical look.
    Definitely good advice there (though unfortunately, common sense is an increasingly rare attribute these days). There are problems, though, in that honest reviewers might hinder this by not giving enough decode clues and dishonest reviewers might be savvy enough to fool the reader (that issue likely to increase). The Internet is fantastic for many things but our ability to validate all truth within is sadly lacking...currently.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Given that Amazon refuse to implement basic search/filtering like ebay has just goes to show their lockin with chinese vendors. a UK only or delivery from uk only option is badly needed.

    What REALLY pissed me off however was when you switch from amazon recommended to the "low to high" range... Your results spike hugely and random tat appears in your list making it impossible to properly sort things out. Almost like they either want you to give up and use recommended list or struggle through the badly curated list.

    Incompetant? or by design. I have suspicions.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    A number of big brands have pulled, or are in the process of pulling, their products from Amazon due to the amount of knock-offs and shonk on there now. (Some of it is probably also the Amazon fees, but they've always had those to some extent). Amazon need to not be blind to this. It could be their undoing. I speculate that they've done some deals to access the chinese market and are now not quite the masters of their own destiny that they might otherwise be. If you subscribe to the view that China is the dominant market of the future then you have to strategically position yourself accordingly. Will it work? We'll see.

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    Re: Amazon UK reviewer racket exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    That is literally a condensed version of one of the shows. For any further information google and youtube are your friends.
    I don't really care enough to go looking. I'm sure it was hilarious to you, but it still makes no sense in the context of my post - Cracker nail clippers are cheap crap and there are better 'prizes' from better crackers, hence people buying them... It wasn't me who asked the question, you know.
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