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    I agree with most of the things said here.

    The one thing that REALLY does it for me is that you can go out, buy a dvd ( even a brand new dvd ) for less money than an album thats been out 10 years! Nearly all films contain an albums with of music, have hundreds more people to pay to create it, are more expensive to physically create. Yet they are CHEAPER in nearly all cases than CD's, something is wrong there.

    I buy loads of dvds, probably 1-2 a week on average. i haven't brought an audio CD in years. I buy PC games a couple of times a quarter when I'm tired of the old one. Even PC games as far as I'm concerned are worth more than audio CD's, more people invovled and less fat cats.

    As a side note, don't get me wrong, I LOVE music. I like alot of differant types of music too, but I resent spending my hard earnt cash on CD's which plainly aren't worth my money. I'd rather give bands I like a fiver in their back pocket (which is obviously more than they currently make for a CD sale) and them send me a cd, or let me download it without all that crappy protection crap so you cant do anything to the file. I would pay to download music if...

    1) I could find a site that actually had more than 10 songs i like on. Why is it sites only sell mainstream songs, sure some of them are OK... But I don't like S club 7, girls aloud, backstreet boys or half that other crap they call music.

    2) They didn't put protections all over the files so you can't do a bloody thing to do, if I pay for it I don't expect to have to mess around if I want to stick it on a cd for my car. What the hell is the use in me paying for something if i have to be attached to my PC 24/7 to listen to the bloody thing.

    3) Some, and I do say SOME sites I have seen - charge nearly the same as the cost of the CD on cdwow... why the *hell* would i pay the same amount of money for an mp3 copy of a cd, which i can do bugger all with besides play it on my pc, in crappy bitrate. when I could buy the cd for the same amount ( which I NEVER would because they are so insanely over-priced. )

    Maybe when the record industry fat-cats take a diet and stop being so greedy, I'll consider buying CD's again. Although unless they change their ways soon, I will never buy another CD again purely out of principle. I'd sooner buy 3 DVD's with 30 odd songs in the sound tracks over 1 album.

    Also, as a very final note. Although I'm sure most of us have a reasonable understanding of the legal aspects to music downloads, alot of older people - or less technologically minded people do not. Clearer guidelines should be layed out for these people so they KNOW what they are doing is either right or wrong, and why. I'm sure some of the people the RIAA has sued over the past year or so have done so innocently, although being oblivious is not a good excuse, at the end of the day this is new to alot of people. They shouldn't be punished for not being made fully aware of the implacations of what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gr44
    The one thing that REALLY does it for me is that you can go out, buy a dvd ( even a brand new dvd ) for less money than an album thats been out 10 years! Nearly all films contain an albums with of music, have hundreds more people to pay to create it, are more expensive to physically create. Yet they are CHEAPER in nearly all cases than CD's, something is wrong there.
    I can see your point with this and it is somehting i have been surprised at for a long time. But if you look at it differently it is, in a way, sensible.

    How often do you watch the same DVD? i think the most i've watched any of mine is perhaps 3 times. Assuming the film is 2 hours, that makes 6 hours of enjoyment. However, say an album is 1 hour, i could easily listen to that album a hundred times (some of mine i'm sure i've listened to more than that, others perhaps twice ) so £ per-hour of usage, CD's are still better value.

    I know it is a very subjective and scewed way of looking at it and in no way justifies the massive profits certain parts of the industry are making out of the disks, but that is kind of how i think about it

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    It's good to know they've sewn corrupt data into the disc... enough for most CD-audio players to error correct, but enough to confuse most CD-data readers. Yup, it's good to know that improves the listening experience, and overworks the error checker and correction on your player.

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    So much money, so little common sense!

    I really despair about the folks running the music business - surely all the "focus groups" that they use will show that more DRM just isn't the answer!

    To everyone else, there is a possible answer - just don't buy stuff that's got the DRM imposed on it!
    Maybe then - after their latest sclub-aloud-westlife-trance-remix album spends it's entire life in the lower half of the charts - the bozo's would get the idea. Like someone else said on this thread - going after Joe Public and Jane Doe gives the impression that they'd rather do this than go after the big time crims. Great PR - sue the pants off the nine year old who downloads one Britany album, rather than go after the "dealer".

    I was chatting to someone in my local record store and they were saying that content is the key - after all with the DVD's they tend to sell more of the "special editions" than the vanilla versions - maybe the same idea would work with CDs.

    I'm okay though - because the music I like is so old that the dumb dirtbags in charge haven't got round to DRMing it yet!!

    Still waiting for the new AC/DC album ...

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    Like J.S. Clayden of Pitchshifter/PSI Records says, if you can listen to it in a normal CD player, they'll be a way to copy the music from it (paraphrasing slightly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAdMaN
    Like J.S. Clayden of Pitchshifter/PSI Records says, if you can listen to it in a normal CD player, they'll be a way to copy the music from it (paraphrasing slightly).
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