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    Quote Originally Posted by Methanoid
    Would have been good if the review had experimented to prove or disprove this theory. I can see this product getting lots of interest but with comments like that some may hold back.
    I wrote that review nearly a year ago now, so it's a bit late for me to make any changes

    Still, that's not really what I mean. What I mean is, I cannot see how any RAID card designer would even think about doing what was being suggested, unless I'm missing something critical here.
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    Next month it's 2 of the 5 port cards for me I can buy the HDDs later.....speed-wise the PCI version is fine for me as a fileserver at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by probedb
    Next month it's 2 of the 5 port cards for me I can buy the HDDs later.....speed-wise the PCI version is fine for me as a fileserver at home.
    I'm doing exactly the same when scan get those 5 ports cards back in stock. Just one though, cant see myself filling another 2TB on top of what I already have too quickly

    Could a price drop, be paving the way for the PCIe version we're all dying for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    I wrote that review nearly a year ago now, so it's a bit late for me to make any changes

    Still, that's not really what I mean. What I mean is, I cannot see how any RAID card designer would even think about doing what was being suggested, unless I'm missing something critical here.
    From the shiny little flash animation I found on scan, I presumed the onboard RISC and 64/126MB cache was used to compute all that on the fly.

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    i did say that, but my point was that that can only apply to full stripes where the controller has the whole lot in cache and can write it intelligently, fine for reads and sequential writes

    but when youve got small or fragmented files thats not possible for a much higher proportion of the data, and any leftover bits that take up part of a stripe will cause these extra reads all over the place

    i was referring to people who might be thinking of running their whole system on raid3/5 (inc swapfile, temp files)... mainly the type of people who dont do anything that needs it but have got a raid0 anyway... but in that case there wont ever be a real performance decrease... and at first glance raid3 looks diagramatically like raid0 but without the risk of data loss so "everyone should have one"... but in reality it can slow things down if you use it badly

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex
    closest to RAID0 with a parity drive, really

    and there's not much call for "driverless" cards at the low end of the market - since everyone runs windows, why bother with an actual hardware raid card?

    most proper hardware raid cards (read: £300+ cards) are driverless
    Why bother with hardware raid - because you put less of a load on your expensive main CPU, why spend hundreds of pounds on buying the fastest CPU (and maybe overclock it), if you are then going to knock some of the performance off by striping or raiding your disks in software?

    Which proper sata hardware raid cards are driverless?? I've used 3WARE/AMCC, Adaptec, and LSI all of those needed drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull
    Could a price drop, be paving the way for the PCIe version we're all dying for?
    Possibly, and/or a SATA300 version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8bit
    Possibly, and/or a SATA300 version.
    : SATA300 would be useless without PCIe, It's already on limited bandwidth.

    But if a SATA 300, PCIe version appeared, i would buy it it on lauch day. as wouild many others I suspect.

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    I'm doing exactly the same when scan get those 5 ports cards back in stock. Just one though, cant see myself filling another 2TB on top of what I already have too quickly
    Can't really afford to go to 2TB yet so it'll have to be 1.2TB with 320Gb drives as they're 15p/GB cheaper at the moment.....hmmm maybe 750Gb drives once they drop significantly ....3TBs!

    Can you just add more drives as and when or do you have to populate the whole card in one go?

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    I think you can expand as you go to a certain extent. I believe you need to start with three drives and can then add a fourth or fifth.

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    That sounds good and a cheaper way to start

    I've got 2 of the 5-ports on order now....have a Coolermaster Stacker so accomodating 10 drives is no problem...having the second means I can just stick another array in there...

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    that sounds sweet. i would be sorely tempted *if* i had somewhere to put a monster like that.

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    End of Line?

    The chip inside the XFX Revo is made by Netcell. I have been tracking the Netcell support forum on and off since they launched this card (I was waiting for SMART support under linux, which didn't come).

    AFAIK The Netcell forums disappeared a few months ago ( http://forums.netcell.com ), and now the main Netcell site has disappeared ( http://www.netcell.com ). I emailed Netcell a month ago to ask about the forums, and the email timed out.

    ...and now Scan is selling off the cards at less than half-price.

    I have contacted Scan and XFX to ask if this is a stock clearance or not - No reply as yet.

    This is a pity - I also liked the look of this card, and would have bought a number if decent linux support had appeared, but it looks like the end of the line for this product

    I don't want to be right on this, and will post an update if I get any response from Scan/Netcell/XFX, but I would suggest that you save your money unless you want to take a chance on a dead company/technology.

    Best of luck,
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    Just because a company ceases to exist does not mean their products magically stop working!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eberian
    I have contacted Scan and XFX to ask if this is a stock clearance or not - No reply as yet.
    Just to re-iterate what I said in the email that we've not heard anything regarding Netcell going bust and searching the web gives no real answers at all.

    In regards to accessing their website, I'm stumped as I am actually on the netcell.com website now looking at a few PDFS.



    As such, until we get an official answer from XFX these are listed as current products

    Best Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN
    In regards to accessing their website, I'm stumped as I am actually on the netcell.com website now looking at a few PDFS.
    Doesn't work for me :\

    edit: Woo I get stuck in a DNS loop.
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