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About LinkBacksTrue! They even beat Anandtech to the punchOriginally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
True! They even beat Anandtech to the punch
Because an engineering sample isn't a reviewer's sample, it's a sample that's used by the engineers to check the chip before it goes to retail production. We've seen several steppings of the same ES chip in the past when erratia has been found.
The retail production run might have very minor alterations that make a huge difference. In some cases it can be small changes in the architecture, in others a simple microcode update (which alone can make a huge difference).
Why set the New K-processors vs the AMD's APUs? Why not put them up against the FX-series? Sure, they lack IGP, but they perform better that the AMD-K's
Hardly beats my i7 920. wake me up when Intel finally makes a CPU thats 70-90% faster clock for clock in every way.
So in conclusion My next PC build includes Devil's Canyon and Z97 motherboard because it feels right and my current build power hungrier than I thought.
The power consumption difference is not going to make any realworld difference,unless you spend your entire life gaming. Think more of the performance upgrade.
With you on this one.
JABULANI NONKE
If there's a bios update I'll be taking one of these and my new maximus formula vi
Last edited by Kovoet; 04-06-2014 at 11:07 AM.
JABULANI NONKE
I have a feeling that with those binned chips, people will be back to batch hunting.
Does the Intel Core i7-4790K have the Intel visualization tech that wasn't in the 4770k but was in the 4770?
Seconded!
j.o.s.h.1408 (04-06-2014)
Usually its the opposite. Intel purposely sends out samples that overclock really well to get better reviews...Says on the test config page that their engineering sample chip (not the same as one you'd buy in store) is an unexpectedly bad overclocker and they can't push it further. We're still waiting on retail devil's canyon for overclocks and proper temperatures. From this it seems delidding is still likely the only way though...Any information about overclocking?
People have claimed they overclock better for years. People have claimed they overclock worse for years. People have claimed they're about the same as retail. The slightly smarter people have claimed they are the luck of the draw, like retail.
The truth is no one knows or has any evidence for any of them.
Well we do have one bit of evidence at least regarding Ivy Bridge. Engineering samples used different dies to retail samples:
http://www.chip-architect.com/news/2...es_Sandys.html
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 05-06-2014 at 03:18 PM.
That's evidence they used different dies, not that they tried to manipulate benchmarks to show better overclocking.
This kind of thing is expected. They are samples for checking the engineering of the chip. I don't see how it has anything to do with benchmark manipulation
The problem is that the bigger die was a production sample of an IB Core i5,obtained by the company which took the pictures. The earlier picture is of an engineering sample(many reviews use these like Hexus for example),meaning there is a distinct possibility that reviews were testing a chip not representative of what you could actually buy. My major concern is not overclocking but things like power consumption for example.That's evidence they used different dies, not that they tried to manipulate benchmarks to show better overclocking.
This kind of thing is expected. They are samples for checking the engineering of the chip. I don't see how it has anything to do with benchmark manipulation
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 06-06-2014 at 01:40 AM.
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