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    AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    The new AMD GPUs seem competitive with NVidia's 2060/2070 at various points, and sometimes even 2080, so it will pretty much come down to price, and individual games that people play. Hopefully a few months down the line we'll see something like a 5800/5800XT.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Ohh shxt....Now I dunno if a RTX 2060 Super is the best choice I can make at the moment.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Wow. Not a blow you away type performance, but quietly these cards are better performance and/or lower cost and lower power than nVidia, even after the 'super' refresh. I still think the 'mid-range' is too pricey, but if you're there then AMD have just won it.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Interesting review. It's a pity the partner cards are still 5 weeks away roughly, not sure if a blower card is for me.

    Just on the AMD website, they state the RX 580 typically uses 185 W with a recommended 500 watt psu here:

    https://www.amd.com/en/products/grap...#product-specs

    But the RX 5700 they state it will typically use 180 W, with a recommended 600 W psu here:

    https://www.amd.com/en/products/grap...#product-specs

    Am I missing something here? Does the RX 5700 really need a 600W psu or is AMD just playing it safe? Maybe AMD can clarify on this at some point.

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    My Corsair HX 520W will probably be fine having triple +12V rails etc. Might hold off and see if Doom Eternal has a nice RTX reveal at QuakeCon at the end of the month. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia had that up their sleeve as a trump card of sorts.
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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Everyone who wanted an RTX GPU with the RT cut off at a lower price, here's just that (and on scan for less than 1USD:1GBP, which is nice). It's impressive how closely matched they are with the (more expensive) nvidia cards - the super series are consistently a couple of fps ahead and within a few watts, which is unexpected given the differences in architecture.

    The cooler/fan curve is well designed too, matching a normal cooler for noise is impressive - I wonder how much that was helped by a higher core temp, and how much of the difference was down to the higher ambient?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hand View Post
    Interesting review. It's a pity the partner cards are still 5 weeks away roughly, not sure if a blower card is for me.

    Just on the AMD website, they state the RX 580 typically uses 185 W with a recommended 500 watt psu here:

    https://www.amd.com/en/products/grap...#product-specs

    But the RX 5700 they state it will typically use 180 W, with a recommended 600 W psu here:

    https://www.amd.com/en/products/grap...#product-specs

    Am I missing something here? Does the RX 5700 really need a 600W psu or is AMD just playing it safe? Maybe AMD can clarify on this at some point.

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    My Corsair HX 520W will probably be fine having triple +12V rails etc. Might hold off and see if Doom Eternal has a nice RTX reveal at QuakeCon at the end of the month. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia had that up their sleeve as a trump card of sorts.
    Recommended PSU numbers are always useless, as long as you've got a reputable brand PSU then you can run it much closer to rated capacity then they suggest. Hexus tests their reviewed PSUs at full capacity, when's the last time they reported a PSU under review went pop?

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Yes that's what I figured.. just seemed odd the AMD site being a little inconsistent really on a big launch day etc.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hand View Post
    Interesting review. It's a pity the partner cards are still 5 weeks away roughly, not sure if a blower card is for me.

    Just on the AMD website, they state the RX 580 typically uses 185 W with a recommended 500 watt psu here:

    https://www.amd.com/en/products/grap...#product-specs

    But the RX 5700 they state it will typically use 180 W, with a recommended 600 W psu here:

    https://www.amd.com/en/products/grap...#product-specs

    Am I missing something here? Does the RX 5700 really need a 600W psu or is AMD just playing it safe? Maybe AMD can clarify on this at some point.

    Edit:

    My Corsair HX 520W will probably be fine having triple +12V rails etc. Might hold off and see if Doom Eternal has a nice RTX reveal at QuakeCon at the end of the month. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia had that up their sleeve as a trump card of sorts.
    Generally speaking 600W PSU's can withhold higher peaks compared to 500W psu's, I'm talking about apples to apples comparison here of equal quality PSU's. Its likely that RX 5700 has higher peak voltage draws that can stress or even short circuit a 500W psu.

    Technically speaking a high quality 500W psu should be perfectly fine for a RX 5700, but AMD is playing it safe by recommending a 600W psu.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    Everyone who wanted an RTX GPU with the RT cut off at a lower price, here's just that (and on scan for less than 1USD:1GBP, which is nice). It's impressive how closely matched they are with the (more expensive) nvidia cards - the super series are consistently a couple of fps ahead and within a few watts, which is unexpected given the differences in architecture.
    I was thinking near enough the same thing, how close they are to the 60/70 supers makes it a really hard choice if they're priced the same (for some reason retailers don't seem to be listing prices for the supers currently). AMD have the advantage that they're clearly better in Vulkan titles but Nvidia have RTX so they both have added selling points outside of the similar average performance, if prices are the same I'd have go with AMD as Vulkan improves performance whereas RTX have the reverse effect.

    It should be really interesting to see what partners can do with these cards as i suspect with the right heatsink and further tuning these could just edge it over the supers, if the price is right.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Pricing is still a bit high for my liking, I don't game as much as I used to and I'm only at 1080p - my RX580 will be staying in my PC a while longer. I don't expect it'll be too long before we see a non-blower 5700 for <£300, then I might bite... I reckon Black Friday if not before.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagnaj97 View Post
    Pricing is still a bit high for my liking, I don't game as much as I used to and I'm only at 1080p - my RX580 will be staying in my PC a while longer. I don't expect it'll be too long before we see a non-blower 5700 for <£300, then I might bite... I reckon Black Friday if not before.
    If you have RX 580 at 1080p you might want to hang for another year. 4K should be really starting to break into the mainstream next year with next gen consoles arrving in Q4 2020 and I imagine the 7nm Geforce 3000 series RTX/GTX and Navi 20 cards in a similar time frame. 4K TN monitors will be going for under £/$200 as standard, 4K IPS maybe under £/$250 by then I think too.

    But yes I agree that if you really wanted to upgrade you may as well wait for Black Friday to get a sub £300 RX 5700. I doubt I can wait that long personally and might go for a sapphire,asus or gigabyte(if they sorted out the coil whine on their fans and if they provide 4 year warranty) RX 5700 AIB card next month at a rough £330 or less price.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Honestly can't believe people aren't making more of this everywhere - either I'm reading the results wrong or, at its declared target resolution of 1440p, the 5700 XT beats the 2060 Super - the card it's priced to march - in every game except Total War, and in 3 of the seven games it also beats the 25% more expensive 2070 super.

    In fact, the cheaper 5700 beats the 2060 Super in 4 of the 7 games, at near-identical power draw - and it only loses to the price comparable plain 2060 in Total War, and then only by 1fps.

    Is it just me? Is there something I'm missing?

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    AMD will be working on the drivers too like nobody's business, I think they might soon be overtaking the supers in more benchmarks.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Once somebody makes one with a better/quieter cooler I'm interested. Disappointing they haven't fixed the reference one that's been lackluster for years but in all other respects it's a very good card.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    (for some reason retailers don't seem to be listing prices for the supers currently).
    pricing for Supers shows on mine in the chrome > google searches. without clicking through to the shop site.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=rtx+...&bih=907#spd=0

    the few on the shopping tab show Super 2060s at :
    £379.98 for a zotac at ebuyer
    and a gainward for £407.90 and £419.90 at alza.co.uk

    pricing could be placeholders or the day 1 pricing from when they first appeared.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Honestly can't believe people aren't making more of this everywhere - either I'm reading the results wrong or, at its declared target resolution of 1440p, the 5700 XT beats the 2060 Super - the card it's priced to march - in every game except Total War, and in 3 of the seven games it also beats the 25% more expensive 2070 super.

    In fact, the cheaper 5700 beats the 2060 Super in 4 of the 7 games, at near-identical power draw - and it only loses to the price comparable plain 2060 in Total War, and then only by 1fps.

    Is it just me? Is there something I'm missing?
    *cough*
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    Wow
    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel
    even after the 'super' refresh
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    AMD have just won it.

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