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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hand View Post
    I'm glad my gigabyte B350 is supporting the Ryzen 3000 series, so at least I'll have some sort upgrade path(a cheap 3700X maybe in 2020/21) if they don't support the Ryzen 4000 series next year. A cheerful upgrade from a 2400G that would be.
    Same with the Asrock B350's too. Good stuff.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    I think it is mainly the A320m boards that are going to be 1st and 2nd gen ryzen only, though I heard MSI trying to imply they weren't going to support some of their B350 boards on 3rd ryzen I think, though will have to check on that. I think AMD might have had a word with them since then anyway so not sure if that is still the case.
    Last edited by The Hand; 08-07-2019 at 05:33 PM.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Could come down to the individual board - Asrock have 5 out of their 6 A320m's listed as supporting the new cpu's, which surprised me. Their one that doesn't support it is a thin mini-itx.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    That's impressive then, Asrock seem pretty good support wise. I wouldn't be surprised if Asrock B350 boards got Ryzen 4000 series support then.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Jon View Post
    Could come down to the individual board - Asrock have 5 out of their 6 A320m's listed as supporting the new cpu's, which surprised me. Their one that doesn't support it is a thin mini-itx.
    Is it the A320M Pro4?

    I own one, and no matter how many times I updated the BIOS it would not properly run my 2400G. It's currently homeless in its antistatic bag.
    The MSI B450 micro ATX board I replaced it with worked like a charm..

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    Is it the A320M Pro4?

    I own one, and no matter how many times I updated the BIOS it would not properly run my 2400G. It's currently homeless in its antistatic bag.
    The MSI B450 micro ATX board I replaced it with worked like a charm..
    A320M Pro 4 gets them: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A320M%...dex.us.asp#CPU

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    I was going to get one of these but then I heard about the performance of Mark Zuckerberg. Apparently, his chip is also on an AM4 socket so I'm going to get me one of him, pop his chip out and put it into my PC.

    Will let you know how he benches.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    Wasn't there talk of the 3000 series needing at least a 400 series chipset?

    EDIT: I was thinking of this. But on re-reading it it doesn't specifically say it won't work.
    There was talk, and CPU support now seems to be all over the place. Old A8 & A10 etc APUs with construction cores are being dropped from support in new BIOSes for older boards to support newer chips. X570 boards might not have support for 1000 series Zen CPUs. It seems to be down to how much flash space there is for the BIOS, my X470 has a 32MB bios chip so perhaps lower end boards only have 16MB if they are dropping so much support? I have yet to see anything from Asus to say the X470-Pro that I have is compatible with 3000 series, which I suppose I should have expected. Asus have always done nice boards but lousy support.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Interesting Amazon components top sellers list atm, you have to really dig for Intel chips:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Seller...rs_1_computers


    Apparently these chips do not boot modern Linux distributions: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...0x-linux&num=2

    For me that's a huge problem. Amazon haven't shipped my order yet, so I am very tempted to cancel. That would give me more time to read further reviews and see if the 3700X is really my best choice, but Amazon seem to be building up a waiting list of backorders so if I re-ordered straight away it would be another week before I got a CPU. Also I can't fit the chip until Monday, and there could well be a fix by then.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Interesting Amazon components top sellers list atm, you have to really dig for Intel chips:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Seller...rs_1_computers
    A bit of shiny-new effect going on probably given people who wanted Intel could have already bought it before this week. Overclockers are discounting some intel chips but I've not seen the same from Scan or Amazon, so perhaps Intel are *still* having supply issues.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Apparently these chips do not boot modern Linux distributions: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...0x-linux&num=2

    For me that's a huge problem. Amazon haven't shipped my order yet, so I am very tempted to cancel. That would give me more time to read further reviews and see if the 3700X is really my best choice, but Amazon seem to be building up a waiting list of backorders so if I re-ordered straight away it would be another week before I got a CPU. Also I can't fit the chip until Monday, and there could well be a fix by then.
    Check Level1 forums, Wendel did a launch day piece on Linux support and got almost everything working in the end.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    I was expecting Intel demand to be fairly flat. Could well be selection bias, perhaps sales at the likes of Dell aren't impacted.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kanoe View Post
    Check Level1 forums, Wendel did a launch day piece on Linux support and got almost everything working in the end.

    Ooh many thanks. So it boots if I boot into Windows first. That's horrible, but I think I can live with that until a fix turns up.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Interesting Amazon components top sellers list atm, you have to really dig for Intel chips:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Seller...rs_1_computers
    2600/2600X also doing well. It's interesting to see the 3700X and 3900X so high in the rankings, maybe an effect of the particular chips AMD seeded to reviewers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roobubba View Post
    As I'm not earning at the moment - doing solo indie game dev - I'm having to wait before I upgrade my old i5 4670K. To see these leaps and bounds from AMD makes me very happy indeed, they're really pushing intel hard right now. Reminds me of the old Althon days - that competition led directly to the Core series from Intel.

    As a content creator who games and isn't on a wage right now, the Bang4Buck, multithreaded and single-core performance all matter a lot to me. AMD right now are slaying it. Great to see.

    Good times for consumers await.
    It's going to be great once intel actually starts competing with AMD again, and AMD has to start pushing more cores further down the product stack to compete

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    so I plan on buying a new gaming rig. this a good pick?
    this is cheaper than intel, right?

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    It's interesting to see the 3700X and 3900X so high in the rankings, maybe an effect of the particular chips AMD seeded to reviewers?
    That might be part of it. As someone who has ordered a 3700X, the obvious choice for me would have been a 3600X but I figured the extra couple of cores would be nice and I have no performance data too tell me the 3600X is a better buy.

    It is sort of against my principles to buy a 65W part, but the 3700X is expensive enough already and seems highly capable.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

    Quote Originally Posted by hariken07 View Post
    so I plan on buying a new gaming rig. this a good pick?
    this is cheaper than intel, right?
    I would wholeheartedly recommend you the 3700X. It's pretty-much 9900K performance for 9700K money. The X570 motherboards are quite expensive at the moment but PCI Express 4.0 might just be worth having in a year or two.

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