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    HEXUS.reviews :: Draytek Vigor2800VG

    This is an expensive router, reassuringly expensive, weighing in at around £150; around five times more than some home routers. In fact, this product could be considered more of an office router, as we'll see in due course, but the fact of the matter is, if you're willing to pay, the Vigor2800 series of routers make great home routers too.
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    i just got a solwise SAR-600E which i read was good, but the bloody lan port on it doesnt work so i cant configure it(had a some old spare netgear and d-link ones luckily), i only require a router with portforwarding everything else is useless inc wireless for me, i wish they made fibre optic routers (cheap).

    do you know the difference between the 2800 and 2900 ? considering the 2900.

    on another not BT suck, i ordered classic 512k and got business max premium, max doesnt work properally on my lines as the distance is too great and too much noise, the last draytek i had though never worked properally (2600) line kept dropping because of the SNR or something like that.

    any other options?

    also considering the Cisco 837 CISCO837-K9-64 IP ADSL Router w/64MB Memory as it will more than likely actually work. just dont trust cheap **** now.

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    The 2900 is a cable router IIRC.
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    arh yes its just a 'broadband router' dont think it actually has a modem on it.

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    there is such a lack good routers with just the standard features, i've used, dlink - crap, netgear - crap, zyxel - extremely crap, linksys - extremely crap and now solwise - crap.

    i'm starting to think a PCI card will be best.

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    Nice Review Steve - giving the Draytek the recognition I've been pimping for ages
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    Well I'm pretty happy with my 2600 - other than the VoIP would it warrant an upgrade? (no assed about the VoIP functionality)

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    I've never used a 2600, so I'm not in a position to say.
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    When you do future reviews of routers, it would be welcome if you could test their capability as well as just giving a run-down of the features.

    Tom's hardware has a reasonable approach which gives an indication of how the hardware might perform under a typical barrage of bittorrent requests (something that might be useful to justify a £150 router rather than a £30 one). This doesn't necessarily mean using a commercial program like IxChariot (which Tom's admits has problems with SOHO routers in their standard NAT+SPI mode, so why use it?), but it would be useful to have an idea of how the router handled throughput at different numbers of connections.

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    Charleski, thanks for the feedback.

    Performance is something we thought about, but unfortunately we don't have a DSLAM at our disposal, so don't have a controllable WAN endpoint* with which to perform tests.

    Cable routers would be a different story, but with ADSL it gets a bit tricky.

    (*and trust me, with my ISP, I won't be relying on theirs...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    I've never used a 2600, so I'm not in a position to say.
    I'm currently operating a 2600VG at home with a number of 2600VGI models at work. Is it worth an upgrade??

    The answer would be yes but not quite yet. At least not until my Internet provider (Nildram) is able to offer me ADSL-2 capability. For those of you who do not own a Vigor then I can say "yes, definately!". The 2800 replaces the 2600 but adds the ADSL-2 functionality.

    VOIP is a real godsend for me. As I run a business at home and the Vigor has two VOIP ports, I have registered two local telephone numbers. One as a fax number and one for the business voice line. As the VIGOR uses the industry standard SIP VOIP protocol you are not limited to a specific VOIP providor.

    My personal VOIP providor of choice was sipgate.co.uk who at the time offered more functionality than Draytel. This may have changed but Sipgate have given me a high level of service so I have little need to look elsewhere.

    Hardware VPN and Software VPN passthrough. Works as expected. My vigor regularly connects to a pair of Checkpoint Firewalls and has no problems using Cisco PIX software VPN or the Checkpoint SecuRemote software.

    Microsoft Messenger and UPNP. Always used to be a real pain to configure for file transfers when in chat mode. Works like a dream on the vigor. Just turn on UPNP and start using MSN after a workstation reboot.

    Well that's my two peneth on these wonderful routers.

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    An an FYI to everyone who has already commented in here. Draytek have now provided a response to our article under the HEXUS.right2reply initiative. You can find it on the final page of the review.
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    I only have a little to say here... Draytek = win. Nuff said

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    I would be interested in how well the VOIP works, as potentaly it could be great and act as a least cost router on steriods.

    Just think, after you sign up for a VOIP account, you tell the thing who is your telecoms provider, and what special deals you have. (frends and family etc). And then every time you pick up the phone and dial a numer it can work out the relative cost of VOIP versus BT, and route the call the cheapest. So for example, if you have signed up for a free local calls deal, it would not route such calls via VOIP.

    It would also need to let certain types of call (emergency, operator etc) to always go via a landline.

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    i've been using the 2600v the past few days and it doesnt drop connection like it does on my other line (and this is on dsl max aswell - god dammit i hate bt). the web interface is also 10 times more responsive than any other router i've used recently (netgear and zyxel). i've just bought a house and will be moving in in a few months, thanks to samknows.com i found out that i am under 400meters from the exchange so fingers crossed adsl max should actually be worth it, and might consider bonding.

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