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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    I think so, it matches the wikipedia description, and looks about right!


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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    When I was in Estonia a few years back we had a Bresaola-style cured meat made from reindeer. It was the nicest piece of meat I've ever eaten.... although I suspect that one might be a little way off for you, Sam__?

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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    Venison might be easier to obtain and should be a pretty close clone.
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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    Quote Originally Posted by Moby-Dick View Post
    Venison might be easier to obtain and should be a pretty close clone.
    iirc (it was quite a few years ago now ) we had venison on the same plate (we literally stumbled into a deli planning to buy a coffee and got talked into sitting down a large platter of meat/cheese/etc) - it was good, but not a scratch on the reindeer, which was rich and velvety without being too gamey or strong...

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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    it was good, but not a scratch on the reindeer, which was rich and velvety without being too gamey or strong...
    Then it was not good venison. I find it a lot like the stuff supermarkets call "authentic Scottish smoked salmon"...

    Basically we had a long chat with several chefs when we were up in the Highlands about this sort of thing, as I *hate* fish... and yet their smoked salmon was AMAZING. So I asked what on Earth they did differently up in actual Scotland that was different to the foul, rotting stuff we get down here.
    Same for the venison, although ours is usually nice enough... just that actual Scottish is so much better.

    According to the chefs, most places do their venison and salmon wrong, the former usually something to do with taking ones that are too old and/or taking the female, whereas the latter is just fish and something I'm not even interested in enough to remember the difference.

    But yeah, venison should be about as awesome as reindeer, if done properly.

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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    i cant help but storm in on this one

    As a hunting man, and as a true believer is sustainability, my most strong suggestion is Muntjac for your next experiment

    There is a vast and growing population of muntjac. It's the smallest deer on UK shores. It isn't native. It's got no open season, so is huntable all year round as is breeds like rabbits.. all year round. It's my personal favourite venison. It's HARD to skin, unlike roe. It has deep flavour and need not be gamey at all. That's down to Sam to sort, with a fresh haunch. The population genuinely needs controlling as the Road Traffic Collisions are hugely in the rise as they look for fresh territory and over spill from land to land. If the local game dealer sees a glut of it, it soon gets cheap for a while.

    I know personally it's best friends with rosemary and lemon as that's how I cook mine (salt/rosemary.lemon zest rub, left overnight, then roasted with chicken stock and vegetables, basted very regularly to keep it moist) . But I've never cured it and SAM is the MAN

    (Sam.. I tried to order on Tuesday from your website, but I have up at the payment section as it failed to work on paypal- I will try again now, and report back)

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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    i cant help but storm in on this one

    As a hunting man, and as a true believer is sustainability, my most strong suggestion is Muntjac for your next experiment

    There is a vast and growing population of muntjac. It's the smallest deer on UK shores. It isn't native. It's got no open season, so is huntable all year round as is breeds like rabbits.. all year round. It's my personal favourite venison. It's HARD to skin, unlike roe. It has deep flavour and need not be gamey at all. That's down to Sam to sort, with a fresh haunch. The population genuinely needs controlling as the Road Traffic Collisions are hugely in the rise as they look for fresh territory and over spill from land to land. If the local game dealer sees a glut of it, it soon gets cheap for a while.

    I know personally it's best friends with rosemary and lemon as that's how I cook mine (salt/rosemary.lemon zest rub, left overnight, then roasted with chicken stock and vegetables, basted very regularly to keep it moist) . But I've never cured it and SAM is the MAN

    (Sam.. I tried to order on Tuesday from your website, but I have up at the payment section as it failed to work on paypal- I will try again now, and report back)

    updated : site is down entirely
    Hey. I did get a warning that a paypal transaction had failed. I tried to fix it so hopefully it should be working now as I managed to get a test payment through.

    The website is up. Not sure how it went down at 4:45 today. Very odd. Sorry.

    ALSO: anyone wanting some cured meats just shoot me a PM if you can't be bothered to go through the website. Saves you time and saves me PayPal fees.
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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    Venison is a great idea! There are loads of hunters around here so I may see what I can find. I'm also thinking about doing a breseola as a few other experiments as the curing chamber has some space in it at the moment.

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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    I'm sure we'll beta test it for you

    I had some cracking chinese water deer the other day. very rich but not too gamey.
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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    I'm up for some venison over other meats

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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    Looks like I'm going to be taking a trip round the local butchers to find some quality large game cuts. This could be an interesting summer.

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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    Or if you could get together with Zak for some fresh Muntjac? The ultimate in locally sourced fresh meat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeePee View Post
    Or if you could get together with Zak for some fresh Muntjac? The ultimate in locally sourced fresh meat!
    I really wish it were that easy. Unless he's an officially registered supplier I can't sell anything on. Will have to stick with local butchers who have game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moby-Dick View Post
    I'm sure we'll beta test it for you

    I had some cracking chinese water deer the other day. very rich but not too gamey.
    CWD is beautiful to eat but it's a lot rarer relatively. Whereas Muntjac genuinely is prolific, to the extent that it's a genuine problem.

    Roe deer are one of only two native deer to the UK (along with the mighty Red Deer far north).. and it's a lovely thing to eat. But the reason I think Muntjac is viable is because it can be in stock to nearly overload level some months (there are still "droughts" when all the deer just sod off.. mystery)

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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam__ View Post
    I really wish it were that easy. Unless he's an officially registered supplier I can't sell anything on. Will have to stick with local butchers who have game.
    What Sam says is vital. Game Approved butcher.

    I'm not near him and nor is Dak who IS Game Dealer certified (it's Dak I shoot with, on his license). When the deer is gralloched Dak has to check all the vital organs for many different diseases and overall health and can sell to Game Dealers.

    the venison food chain is really very traceble in the UK
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    Re: FAO Sam__ license to expound/pimp/teach/extoll

    That's actually really good to hear! One thing I really miss about the UK is the quality of the food, which is a direct result of the rules that are required to maintain these standards!

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