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    VM on the lookout for illegal downloads

    Virgin Media takes fight to illegal downloaders - Telegraph

    No mention on how this is actually going to be done though.
    Presumably the BPI will be watching torrents / P2P for VM IP's and then reporting them.
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    Re: VM on the lookout for illegal downloads

    Interesting...

    It looks similar to the old way.. (its not clear if this is how they are proposing to do it...) the copyright holders catch you first with your ip address, only virgin is encouraging it who then take the IP and ban you.. so its not much of a change (you get disconnected rather than sued, Id prefer that )

    But then, thats only going to affect certain types of pirates... those that use P2P like bittorrent, and napster-of-old.. and its clones..


    Rapidshare (and the other similar hosts, of which many are appearing), and newsgroups (why do isp's still host these, piracy is the only thing they are used for and imo not a very good way of doing it either..) would be immune from this, since its not p2p and only rapidshare will know your ip. Im supprised that it is seeming to last - they have been taken to court and escaped with the idea that they are like an isp and cant filter traffic. Its now the 12th most popular site on teh web, from alexia - one must assume higher since many pirates will remove alexia, where as much less percentage of google's statistics will..

    I think VM know what they are doing.. if they used an effective antipiracy method then everyone will go back to 256-512kbit broadband, paying them far less as a result. BUT if they convince the govenment that they dont need to intervene with stupid pointless laws, they will be better off in the long term.
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    Re: VM on the lookout for illegal downloads

    I think its good to have the peope who hammer the illegal downloads banned. People who download the odd song I think should be ok as long as they are doing it as a tester. If they like they buy if they don't they delete. I think the 2 strikes this is fantastic. When my internet was being used by some git who got my WEP password I would have recived a letter telling me that I was downloading and have been abe to investigate! I suppose this all depends on how fast they can get the letters out. What if some one downloads 3 files in one day?

    I think its a shame its come to this really, People should know better these days. Its not as if any of people who torrent or P2P 24/7 are doing this by accident.

    On a second note, what are the laws on entrapment?
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    Re: VM on the lookout for illegal downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    I think its good to have the peope who hammer the illegal downloads banned. People who download the odd song I think should be ok as long as they are doing it as a tester. If they like they buy if they don't they delete. I think the 2 strikes this is fantastic. When my internet was being used by some git who got my WEP password I would have recived a letter telling me that I was downloading and have been abe to investigate! I suppose this all depends on how fast they can get the letters out. What if some one downloads 3 files in one day?

    I think its a shame its come to this really, People should know better these days. Its not as if any of people who torrent or P2P 24/7 are doing this by accident.

    On a second note, what are the laws on entrapment?
    Thats almost like idenity theft in a way Jay. Depending on how far this goes I wonder if we'll see any changes in the law to protect people if they aren't responsible for illegal activities on there connection? Your IT savvy (a professional even) and its still happened to you it doesn't bode too well for the virtual ludites around who are probably hijacked all the time.

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    Re: VM on the lookout for illegal downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    I think its good to have the peope who hammer the illegal downloads banned. People who download the odd song I think should be ok as long as they are doing it as a tester. If they like they buy if they don't they delete. I think the 2 strikes this is fantastic. When my internet was being used by some git who got my WEP password I would have recived a letter telling me that I was downloading and have been abe to investigate! I suppose this all depends on how fast they can get the letters out. What if some one downloads 3 files in one day?

    I think its a shame its come to this really, People should know better these days. Its not as if any of people who torrent or P2P 24/7 are doing this by accident.

    On a second note, what are the laws on entrapment?
    I don't personally think VM would have cared if it was somebody else who infringed, you or the person paying for the internet would be deemed responsible.

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    Re: VM on the lookout for illegal downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    Virgin Media takes fight to illegal downloaders - Telegraph

    No mention on how this is actually going to be done though.
    Presumably the BPI will be watching torrents / P2P for VM IP's and then reporting them.
    Thanks for the heads up
    Only kidding... I'm not on VM........................................ and I am not an illegal downloader

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