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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    I think that my connection of 41ms isn't really worth this if i may lose some broadband speed. In game i feel fine

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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    Quote Originally Posted by handscombmp View Post
    I think that my connection of 41ms isn't really worth this if i may lose some broadband speed. In game i feel fine
    It's meant to increase your speed not lose you some. Anyway try gaming on US servers and you'll notice the difference

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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    It's meant to increase your speed not lose you some. Anyway try gaming on US servers and you'll notice the difference
    As moogle said, it's not meant to make you lose speed, however if it does it is very slight. For example, on my 8meg ADSL connection, I get a max of about 6700kbps download, with Fast I get between 6600-6700, I don't notice the difference when downloading, but when I'm pinging there's a huge difference.

    For competitive gamers, ping and upload speeds are everything, and FastPath will certainly make those wayyyyyy better.

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    UKOnline told me they can't change interleaving if i'm not via the LLU network. Tosh.
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    Well, after I used fast-path my afternoon surf became quicker, but I'm getting SEVERE packet drop in the evenings :S
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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    Quote Originally Posted by arthurleung View Post
    Well, after I used fast-path my afternoon surf became quicker, but I'm getting SEVERE packet drop in the evenings :S
    If you aren't currently stable don't use it. That's one thing people don't think about. Not saying you aren't but it could be why you get the drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    If you aren't currently stable don't use it. That's one thing people don't think about. Not saying you aren't but it could be why you get the drop.
    Interleaved Mode : "Frequent" Connection drops -> Resync at 10Mbps (Everyday) -> Resync at 17Mbps (Manual reboot, as long as its not within 5 minutes of the drop it will sync at this speed)

    FastPath Mode : Packet Loss -> "Less-Frequent" Connection drops -> Resync at 10Mbps (once every 3 days or so)

    Its probably someone along my telephone line messing with high power radio or whatever that mess with the EM spectrum

    I'm pretty much stuck either:
    1. Stuck at 10Mbps and never look back
    2. Accept a small % of packet drops for short period but stay at high sync speed
    3. Keep rebooting the modem everyday

    What I want to say is fastpath is more "stable" in the sense of not dropping sync, but "unstable" in the sense of packet loss, and vice versa for interleaved mode.
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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    Quote Originally Posted by arthurleung View Post
    Interleaved Mode : "Frequent" Connection drops -> Resync at 10Mbps (Everyday) -> Resync at 17Mbps (Manual reboot, as long as its not within 5 minutes of the drop it will sync at this speed)

    FastPath Mode : Packet Loss -> "Less-Frequent" Connection drops -> Resync at 10Mbps (once every 3 days or so)

    Its probably someone along my telephone line messing with high power radio or whatever that mess with the EM spectrum

    I'm pretty much stuck either:
    1. Stuck at 10Mbps and never look back
    2. Accept a small % of packet drops for short period but stay at high sync speed
    3. Keep rebooting the modem everyday

    What I want to say is fastpath is more "stable" in the sense of not dropping sync, but "unstable" in the sense of packet loss, and vice versa for interleaved mode.

    Maybe you can call your ISP and ask them about this and figure out how to get it fixed... Perhaps you can switch ISP's...

    If you're at a University and share a LAN then that could be the problem, there's all kinds of connections on that thing and you're bound to run into issues.

    Read this article, maybe it will help you with your problem if there is EMI happening, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_pair
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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    my advice, to anyone who has a stable ADSL line, is to leave it WELLLLL alone and dont get the ISP to fiddle with FastPath. Interleaving aint all that bad for gaming, and tbh you end up making corrections anyway sub conciously. Plus, any internet improvment is for BOTH players, so you'll be easier to hit in CoD5 when your ping is better because you really WILL be exactly where the bloke sees you, not fractionally ahead.

    I love having ADSL that works all the time, and Interleaving gives me that.

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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    my advice, to anyone who has a stable ADSL line, is to leave it WELLLLL alone and dont get the ISP to fiddle with FastPath. Interleaving aint all that bad for gaming, and tbh you end up making corrections anyway sub conciously. Plus, any internet improvment is for BOTH players, so you'll be easier to hit in CoD5 when your ping is better because you really WILL be exactly where the bloke sees you, not fractionally ahead.

    I love having ADSL that works all the time, and Interleaving gives me that.
    Maybe for some people FastPath isn't an option, but it's a well-known fact that gamers strive to have the lowest ping times possible, so if you want lowest ping then use FastPath, if you don't care then leave it alone.

    If FastPath makes your connection unstable for some reason, it hasn't mine and I haven't been told that it has done so to anyone else that I'm aware of either, then just switch it back to Interleave.

    Or, if you're afraid to change the settings, then just leave them alone.

    But it's as simple as a call to switch to FastPath, and just as simple as that first call to call back a second time and switch back to Interleave.

    So, if you want to have lower Ping, then give it a try... It's not for everyone, just gamers who want a lower ping and higher upload speeds... You know who you are

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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    my advice, to anyone who has a stable ADSL line, is to leave it WELLLLL alone and dont get the ISP to fiddle with FastPath. Interleaving aint all that bad for gaming, and tbh you end up making corrections anyway sub conciously. Plus, any internet improvment is for BOTH players, so you'll be easier to hit in CoD5 when your ping is better because you really WILL be exactly where the bloke sees you, not fractionally ahead.

    I love having ADSL that works all the time, and Interleaving gives me that.
    When you have lag in an online game it means you're reacting late to things that have already happened. If you and your opponent have identical reaction times but your DSL adds 50ms of lag, you're at a disadvantage. My experience of online gaming is that I get better scores at off-peak times when there is less lag, my pings have gradually improved as my DSL has got faster and my scores improved with it.

    I agree that fast-path is not for everybody but for me where my DSL syncs at the speed the ISP offers and having my router report no errors on the DSL, I'd go for fast-path every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KowShak View Post
    When you have lag in an online game it means you're reacting late to things that have already happened. If you and your opponent have identical reaction times but your DSL adds 50ms of lag, you're at a disadvantage. My experience of online gaming is that I get better scores at off-peak times when there is less lag, my pings have gradually improved as my DSL has got faster and my scores improved with it.

    I agree that fast-path is not for everybody but for me where my DSL syncs at the speed the ISP offers and having my router report no errors on the DSL, I'd go for fast-path every time.
    Well CoD is a stupid game as what it does is counter balance people who are lagging so it makes the game fair for them. If you have a low ping your bullets will miss quite a bit and they can hit you more it's true. I used to be playing matches with 18 ping and it was annoying shooting at people but them not dying, mainly because they were lagging and CoD was delaying my shots (Anti Lag thingy to balance the advantage of the lower ping). But for most other games you won't need to worry as how they usually work is, whichever player is lagging they are the only ones put at a disadvantage and the server registers them as where they last were and doesn't care if you're lagging.

    It's a good thing to have it that way as in CoD alot of the gamers in matches do something called "screenshotting", which is pressing the screenshot button while jumping through doors. What it does is lag them towards their chosen spot and you really can't kill them like that. Examples when they use it is when you walk into a room and there's a door on your right up ahead, and then suddenly one would jump through the door a bit across the room. You'd try and shoot the guy as he jumps but all your bullets miss as he lags across and is shooting at you from an entirely different position. Annoying. Not sure if this is fixed anyway, but in general the lower ping is better for you in all games bar CoD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    Well CoD is a stupid game as what it does is counter balance people who are lagging so it makes the game fair for them. If you have a low ping your bullets will miss quite a bit and they can hit you more it's true. I used to be playing matches with 18 ping and it was annoying shooting at people but them not dying, mainly because they were lagging and CoD was delaying my shots (Anti Lag thingy to balance the advantage of the lower ping). But for most other games you won't need to worry as how they usually work is, whichever player is lagging they are the only ones put at a disadvantage and the server registers them as where they last were and doesn't care if you're lagging.

    It's a good thing to have it that way as in CoD alot of the gamers in matches do something called "screenshotting", which is pressing the screenshot button while jumping through doors. What it does is lag them towards their chosen spot and you really can't kill them like that. Examples when they use it is when you walk into a room and there's a door on your right up ahead, and then suddenly one would jump through the door a bit across the room. You'd try and shoot the guy as he jumps but all your bullets miss as he lags across and is shooting at you from an entirely different position. Annoying. Not sure if this is fixed anyway, but in general the lower ping is better for you in all games bar CoD...
    That is very lame... lol

    They shouldn't do lag compensation... it doesn't work, it just makes things worse.

    It's better if the players who lag get used to shooting at a certain spot to compensate themselves... thats what everyone I know, myself included, has always done in the past.

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    Re: If you don't know what FastPath is, read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Robscure View Post
    That is very lame... lol

    They shouldn't do lag compensation... it doesn't work, it just makes things worse.

    It's better if the players who lag get used to shooting at a certain spot to compensate themselves... thats what everyone I know, myself included, has always done in the past.
    Exactly, same thing I do if I'm lagging (in other games). It's why if I play I join those servers which kick people who are lagging bad. So that's two stupid things, profile stored locally instead of online (people hack their way to get all the weaps) and the lag compensation.


    Well at least the fastpath will help in AA

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