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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Its what I did with my Be connection, the Be box which is the same as the O2 box was a bit annoying to use, got a 2nd hand DG834GT from Ebay and its brill

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Yeah a few people suggested one of them to me, but managed to bridge the O2 box with my WRT54GL, so double chuffed about that.

    BUFF... You won't regret it bud, VM around here is excellent as far as speeds go, solid 10Mb connection, but its the customer service, STM and loads of other little things that make me glad to see the back of it. First night in a long time I havent had to count megabytes as I go about my internet business!

    Only thing I'm left wondering about is why I'm sync'ing at 22Mb download on a 20Mb service, not that I'm moaning or anything.

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by mehmeh View Post
    Only thing I'm left wondering about is why I'm sync'ing at 22Mb download on a 20Mb service, not that I'm moaning or anything.

    LOL Moogle
    It's weird that isn't it? Because if you're on the 8mb tier you can only sync up to 8188kbps or something like that but actual throughput is 7.5-7.8mbps. Maybe you're secretly on a 24mb package

    Anyway one reason why the DG834GT is suggested is because you can flash it and have permanent SNR adjustability. You can still adjust it if you want and you can try and get more speed by using the DMT tool but you'd need either the original O2 router connected or the Netgear ones.

    Lowering the SNR increases your speed but can also decrease stability and with an O2 box it's never good but if you ever want to try it you can see what extra speed you can get

    By decreasing stability I mean you'll resync more frequently depending on how bad your line is

    Me I used to run at the lowest setting and it'd only resync in one or two days. With the Netgear it holds the sync longer than that. I don't think you'd need to though as you seem to be practically living next to the exchange

    Forgot to mention that if you're an O2 mobile customer you can get a discount, or if not just get a payg sim and top it up (£40 min a year I think, £10 every 3 months) and use that to get the discount because even after you take into account the £40 you spend your broadband price is cheaper than the normal price, ie normal price > discount price + £40.

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Is weird yep, Be* tested my line at 21Mb, O2 said 20Mb, so assumed I was gonna be capped. Am yet to find a server to get a reliable indication of actual speed though so not 100% sure whats going on atm. Won't be ringing them up to ask anytime soon anyway! Is fast enough for me whatever the speed is.

    Not quite next door to the exchange, 380metres, I could see it from my house if it was for Tesco being in the way.

    If I ever move or see speeds drop will deffo look at the new router/firmware idea, but no point atm like you said.

    Got the O2 mobile in the pipeline too, can add it to the deal once I've sorted it out and get my discount from them on apparently.

    Cheers for all the advice moogle. Have some thanks!

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by mehmeh View Post
    BUFF... You won't regret it bud,
    I hope not ...
    I was around at my mother's house last night & her O2 BB was running at dial-up speeds

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNV View Post
    Its what I did with my Be connection, the Be box which is the same as the O2 box was a bit annoying to use, got a 2nd hand DG834GT from Ebay and its brill
    Yep exactly the same as me, much better router.

    And i'm an ex BE customer now on O2, same service for a quarter of the price (well the offer I managed to snaffle), bargain!

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by BUFF View Post
    I hope not ...
    I was around at my mother's house last night & her O2 BB was running at dial-up speeds
    Is that the access package or LLU? As have seen lots of people moaning about the access package recently.. Apparently the quidco/3 months free offer worked a little too well. Again, apparently O2 are upgrading capacity to meet demand.

    Been hammering this non stop now for a couple of days and so far speeds (according to speedtest.net are rock solid at 20/1.1

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by mehmeh View Post
    Is that the access package or LLU? As have seen lots of people moaning about the access package recently.. Apparently the quidco/3 months free offer worked a little too well. Again, apparently O2 are upgrading capacity to meet demand.

    Been hammering this non stop now for a couple of days and so far speeds (according to speedtest.net are rock solid at 20/1.1
    As you say about he demand, I suppose it depends on the area, as mines been fine too. Did have a dip a few months ago though, for a few weeks.

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by mehmeh View Post
    Is that the access package or LLU?
    LLU but she is quite far from the exchange it would appear.
    It's normally about 4Mb though on the "upto 8Mb" package.

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    Also if you want the best speeds of your line get a DG834GT or N netgear router and when you use the custom firmware you can permanently set the SNR and the router holds the line sync longer than the speedtouch router that is provided.
    hey moogle and others,
    I was wondering about the specific custom firmware of which you speak, it's whereabouts and if it would work on a DG834G v3 router?
    thanks in advance

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by 0nket View Post
    hey moogle and others,
    I was wondering about the specific custom firmware of which you speak, it's whereabouts and if it would work on a DG834G v3 router?
    thanks in advance

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    http://dgteam.ilbello.com/index.php?pid=10

    That looks to be your router

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    looks a gooden but decided to roll my own now, thanks anyhow
    so how does setting the SNR permenently get it to sync for longer?
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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    Quote Originally Posted by 0nket View Post
    looks a gooden but decided to roll my own now, thanks anyhow
    so how does setting the SNR permenently get it to sync for longer?
    its not setting it permanently, just changing it can increase or decrease stability. Lowering the SNR increases the speed (sync rate) and decreases stability, increasing it lowers sync rate but increases stability. Getting a good router will hold it a bit longer.

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    Re: o2/Be and some help with ADSL

    1 and only 1 reason I know of and that is Bethere will give a static ip and O2 don't. Bethere do let you change the line profiles based on speed, gaming etc but not sure if o2 will do this.

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