tricky question: which *dsl service (UK)?

[dgr]

i thuoght i'd never say this but...

anyone recommend a xdsl serivce in the UK to provide the following requirements?

no probs with ftp servers
preferably more than 1gb /month transfer
512kb
cheap
branded

the reason is i often need to get to my home pc( through my home router), both for X-sessions and file transfer over ftp. these two will probably result in me transfering quite a bit of data.

Additionally, i'd prefer pretty cheap, though branded - no here today, gone tomorrow VISP

oh and finally, i already have a router, just need an ethernet modem. and 5ish microfilters.

question: do i need a microfilter for the plug that the adsl modem plugs into???

any recommendations?

[Moby-Dick]

Zen - and yes you do need filters for every device connected.

[dgr]

thanks.

i have a rather complicated network at present:

netgear 4 port swtich / wifi / router

connected to 3 pcs via cat5 (2 of these via another switch)
and a single computer via wifi
with a view for another to be connected with cat5 in the future.

basically that means that i'll need an ethernet modem, e.g.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...7418&offset=10

my question:

given that this (and similar) broadband modem also includes a router, am i going to face problems when it comes to setting up port forwards, setup, etc? Or will it just be a case of connecting this modem to my exisiting netgear allinone jobbie's uplink?

ta!

dgr

[Moby-Dick]

dont use double NAT - Zen allows you to have proper routable IPS ( up to 8 )

so I'd set up a public IP for the dsl router , and another one for the netgear device.

[dgr]

ah ok - that sounds perfect. if i understand you correctly, does that mean set up the modem/router to allow the netgear to be seen publicly, then repeat for network computers that need to be seen publicly?

Last question - is it normal for VISPs to put a 1gb/month limiit on traffic? the only ISPs i have found to say so are bt and ntl - others such as freeserve and Zen specfily no maximum limit?

Regards

[dgr]

oh - last question (dittoed ) - given that i have a spare port on the netgear allinone, would it be better to plug the modem/router into here, thus ditching the router capabilities of the netgear and simply using it as a ethernet/wifi switch?

thanks!!!

dgr

[G4Z]

I used to work at BTbroadband, I have to say I cannot reccomend it at all, it is actually 1gb/day not month but tbh its an expensive service and it really is "no frills". I would say plus net have the best deal atm, its only £19 a month but....

"In addition, access to binary USENET groups both via PlusNet 's internal USENET servers and any external feeds, is not available. Through active port monitoring, Internet connections for these online applications will not be possible via your ADSL Home Surf connection.

Software programs not supported include, but are not limited to, KaZaA, Gnutella, Edonkey, Napster, WinMX, Aimster and Audiogalaxy. To ensure the quality of service offered through Home Surf, all further file-sharing applications that become available will similarly not be supported."

So thats a bit of a downer really, I would say pipex, Nildram or Zen are wroth looking at but they arent as cheap as £19 a month.

[atifds9]

i second pipex, but both zen and nildram are spot on as well.

[DaBeeeenster]

I dont think you need a filter for the actual ADSL modem...Just everything else...No?

[Moby-Dick]

the filter goes into everyphone socket

[directhex]

technically you don't need a filter for the modem, no, but it can have an effect on line attenuation, which (in cases of already poor attenuation) can cause more frequent line drops

[Steve]

technically you don't need a filter for the modem, no, but it can have an effect on line attenuation, which (in cases of already poor attenuation) can cause more frequent line drops

Just what is line attenuation anyway?

[dgr]

heres a comparison for whoever else is shopping:

tiscali - £25/month, includes no maximum transfer, modem (unknown type)

vispa - £24/month (£25 including routermodem),
rated top on http://www.ispreview.co.uk
Best National Consumer ISP and Best Small Business ISP in 2004 ISPA Awards.

demon - £25/month, no modem (£36 extra), setup=£50

zen - £25/month, setup=£50, no modem, ulimited use

freeserve - £16 a month for 3 months, £28/month thereafter, free usb modem + 2filters,

pipex - £27/month, no modem

bt - £30/month inc modem (unknown type), no cap
£20 cashback - http://www.bttellafriend.com/raf/default.asp?src=btbb

[BeelzebubUK]

I pay £21.99 with Plusnet for their 512Kbps service that specificaly allows peer2peer traffic and no limits. Its been very reliable and customer service appears to be very good.

[Stoo]

Just what is line attenuation anyway?

Okay, every wire causes resistance, and the resistance gets greater the longer the length of the wire, this degrades any sort of signal you attempt to put down the wire.

So the further the signal goes, the less of it there is by the time it gets to the other end.

That's why you have repeaters etc on a network to boost the cable length, as you're basically putting more power into the signal to compensate for attenuation

The current limit for 512KB adsl is 60dB.. my line is currently at 59dB

[foamy]

nildram works well for me