# Thread: How room temp. affects processor temp. (graphs)

I was curious just how much room temperature can affect the temperature of the PC. I chose to look at the CPU since Speedfan can monitor and log temps for each of the 4 cores in my Q6600, and since of all the components, the CPU is probably the most sensitive to changes in air temp. since mine is air cooled.

Anyway, I did the same x264.exe encode that I have been doing for all my temperature comparisons and monitored room temp. with a calibrated digital thermometer at several points during each encode. These were averaged and graphed against the averaged reported core temp* values from Speedfan for the entire second pass of a 2-pass x264 encode of the same video file. I was happy to see that for the different room temps used, the increases were pretty linear (certainly within error).

Result:
You can see by the slopes of the regression line that every delta &#176;F of room temp. affected the average core temp by about 0.8 &#176;C and for your Celsius folks, every delta &#176;C of room temp. affected the average core temp by about 1-1/2 &#176;C.

So what does this mean and why do you care? Well, using these rules of thumb, if it's currently 70 &#176;F in your room, and your average load core temp is 65 &#176;C, you can expect that to change by roughly 0.8 &#176;C for every single &#176;F your room temp. change. Say your room hits 80 &#176;F. Your load core temp should increase from 65 to 73 &#176;C which may be unacceptable to you and you might want to adjust your o/c accordingly. This is just an approximation based on my system. Your mileage may vary...

*The numbers I used are equivalent to those collected by TAT or RMClock: these temps are core temps. As I understand it, TJunction never changes and is a fixed value for a given chip. The Quads get a values of 100 &#176;C and the duals get 85 &#176;C. The core temp is defined as:
Code:
```Core temp = TJunction - DTS

Example, DTS reads 62.  You take 100-62=38 and your core temp is 38 &#176;C.```
DTS (Digital Thermal Sensor) can be read directly for each core. See this thread for more on reading your DTS directly without software like TAT or RMClock paying attention to uncleweb's posts using crystalCPUID to read the DTS directly. When I tried this method, I was able to get the same values for the core temps on my Q6600 as TAT and RMClock gave me. For some reason, Speedfan always shows cooler core temps for my chip which I corrected by adding 15 &#176;C to each temp (the table is CORRECTED temps). Read more about that in the caption under the graph.

Raw data and graphs
Hardware specs: Q6600 (lapped) @ 9x333, Ultra-120 Extreme (lapped), P5B-Del., P182 case w/ 4 fans on low, Corsair 620HX, Ballistix DDR2-800 @ 4-4-4-12 (1:1 Mem:CPU).

Raw data table in case you want the individual points:

To read more about TJunction and for a discussion about other things relating to thermal output fromC2D chips, see: http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...topic&t=221745

2. Nice work. Very useful, i suspected something as much, but you've made a nice piece of work there.

3. Ive just done a quick comparison between speedfan and coretemp, and here is what it showed.

This is under 4x load at 1.62v in the bios.

4. @MSIC - I'm glad that someone else is finding it useful -- always glad to contribute.

@Clunk - Wow dude, tcase of 69 &#176;C is over the red-line of 62.2&#176;C... you concerned about longevity operating at those temps?

5. Using the stock cooler, at stock volts, and measured with coretemp, this cpu runs at 72c under load.

What does yours run at under load measured by coretemp?

6. Originally Posted by Clunk
Using the stock cooler, at stock volts, and measured with coretemp, this cpu runs at 72c under load.
Okay... that's with the Intel HSF? What are the temps with your liquid cooling system @ stock 9x266 and stock voltage do under load?

Originally Posted by Clunk
What does yours run at under load measured by coretemp?
I can't run core temp on this machine - it crashes. TAT does give numbers and they are roughly +15 &#176;C more than speedfan. I think that they take their readings at different update intervals so that if you average out say 20 readings, they average out to about +15.

7. Ill do stock later. Obviously the stock intel cooler can use the backplate, so that affects temps by about 18c.

Ill just do a couple more hours on this Prime run and Ill reset it to stock.

8. Thats the best I can do at the moment.

9. Updated 15-May with two higher temp points. It was like 85 °F outside today and I left the A/C off. Room got hot so I ran two additional points at about 76 and 77. Anyway, as you can see, it's all linear up to 77.5 °F and I suspect it'll continue that way if it gets hotter.

10. Updated 19-May: Fixed a small error and put formulas for both &#176;F and &#176;C (of your room temp) on the graph. The relationship is: for every &#176;F change in room temp, the load TJunction changes by 1-1/2 &#176;C. Well, this is true for my system, YMMV...