what is better to play games on intel or Amd

[sammorris]

but would still suck AMD started the ball rolling proving that architecture was more important than mhz, Intel carried it on with the core 2s. A 4Ghz QX9650 is probably per-core something like a 9.5Ghz P4, and there's four of them...

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

but would still suck AMD started the ball rolling proving that architecture was more important than mhz, Intel carried it on with the core 2s. A 4Ghz QX9650 is probably per-core something like a 9.5Ghz P4, and there's four of them...

You could heat a four bedroom house probably with a quad core 9.5ghz P4!!

Also joe and jane public tend to be more impressed by bigger numbers so a 9.5ghz P4 would have probably outsold everything else!!

Imagine the amount of money Intel would have made on renting out mobile nuclear power plants for powering these!!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It seem the X4 965 is able to hit between 4ghz+ with relatively low volts with an air cooler and under prime according to some forums. It will interesting to see a review of this CPU when it comes out.

[sammorris]

Well, I'll wait and see what the professional opinion is once they're released. The 955 didn't seem to be much better for overclocking than the 940, 3.7-3.8 was the norm, 3.9 pushing it. Obviously due to the clock speed differences at stock, matching the typical 3.85Ghz overclock on a Q9550, the Phenom IIs need to be up at 4.35Ghz to match that.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well, I'll wait and see what the professional opinion is once they're released. The 955 didn't seem to be much better for overclocking than the 940, 3.7-3.8 was the norm, 3.9 pushing it. Obviously due to the clock speed differences at stock, matching the typical 3.85Ghz overclock on a Q9550, the Phenom IIs need to be up at 4.35Ghz to match that.

I would say around 4.2ghz actually as in games the Q9550 and the X4 955 are actually neck and neck in speed. Anyway the Q9400 is more similar in price to the X4 955BE anyway and has lower cache and a lower clockspeed than the Q9550 too.

[sammorris]

I assumed they were neck and neck, but 3200/2833 = 1.12594. 1.12954x3850mhz= 4348.7mhz.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I assumed they were neck and neck, but 3200/2833 = 1.12594. 1.12954x3850mhz= 4348.7mhz.

I would say around a 300mhz to 350mhz advantage to the Q9000 series core2 quads. The 3ghz 940 traded blows with the 2.66ghz Q9400 and the 2.8ghz 920 with the 2.5ghz Q9300 and was cheaper than both of them.

Roughly speaking:

1.)Phenom II X4 920 ~ Q9300 and Q8300
2.)Phenom II X4 940 and 945 ~ Q9400 and Q8400
3.)Phenom II X4 955 ~ Q9550
4.)Phenom II X4 955 ~ Q9650

[sammorris]

It seems pretty much a direct multiple to me, which is 366mhz for the 955/Q9550, 333mhz for the 940/Q9400 and 300mhz for the 920/Q9300. Stands to reason that a 3.4Ghz (if that's what the 965 is) CPU would be 400mhz. When overclocked to 4Ghz the gap would widen to 450-470mhz ish.

[blackthunder36]

Black, why is you never seem to finish you posts. I see one from two months ago for you speccing a system. Did you find more money since then or something? Or is your budget still £200?

I'm also concerned, it almost seems as if you are trolling from your post history.

Let me explain, and someone stop me if my perceptions of forum reality are completely warped and I need my head checked:

There seems to be four types of posters on forums in general, spamers, trollers, "I need something", and regular posters.

You do not fit under spammers because you're not advertising, you don't fit under trollers because you this post is the only one that would cause contriversity, and it didn't, you're not "I need something" because any threads you start you never finish and you haven't taking as many posts as possible to get 20 for free shipping, and you're not a regular poster because, well, you don't post regularly.

well sorry about not finishin it its because i gave my money to help my dad by a new car cause he was out of work (daewoo larnos good little car with a six cd changer eh eh, bad thing is about it i cannot fit in it no more )
well my birthday is coming up next month so we will see on wot my final budget is.

well at the moment the budget stands at 350-500, thats if i get my compensation.

[Cornholio]

Speccing a system up that you dont have the money for yet, wishful thinking me thinks.

[kalniel]

Speccing a system up that you dont have the money for yet, wishful thinking me thinks.

But it's a lot of fun

[peterb]

But it's a lot of fun

QFT! and prices to tend to drift down as newer, shinier kit is developed!

well sorry about not finishin it its because i gave my money to help my dad by a new car cause he was out of work (daewoo larnos good little car with a six cd changer eh eh, bad thing is about it i cannot fit in it no more )
well my birthday is coming up next month so we will see on wot my final budget is.

well at the moment the budget stands at 350-500, thats if i get my compensation.

Hope things work out for you and that the PC you want soon comes into your possession!

[nightkhaos]

But it's a lot of fun

But the best bit is getting it and and then planning how to improve it. Noctua S12Bs, Asus Xonar DX2, 3x 1TB Samsung EcoDrives in RAID 5, new broadband router, cooling improvements for my server... *drools*

[scaryjim]

I spend my entire life speccing PCs I can't afford - that's why I registered on hexus: I'm just here to live vicariously through people with more money (and less demanding better halves?!? ) than me

[sammorris]

Haha I must have spec'ed at least 300+ systems on forums over the years, yet have only owned half a dozen. The amount of time I spend experimenting with different parts though, it seems like more than that.

[blackthunder36]

QFT! and prices to tend to drift down as newer, shinier kit is developed!





Hope things work out for you and that the PC you want soon comes into your possession!

true its best to keeps messing around looking for good prices for a good spec before finalising (i think i spelt that right?) but i still dont know whether to go intel or amd