i3 system powerful?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It seems to work fine with the Phenom II:

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/ind...owtopic=155312

http://www.ihackintosh.com/2009/09/i...pc-hackintosh/

Anyway what happens when the next version of OS X comes out then??

Will you have to support the computer if there is a problem with the update??

It may not work with the non-Mac even if it is an Intel based build.

I would get a Linux install and make it look like OS X.

[badass]

I did tell my uncle to buy a Mac but he complains they are too expensive.

What's he paying you?

[golwg]

What's he paying you?

Nothing at all. I wouldn't dream of charging as he is a great guy and also a pensioner plus, the most important point, family.

[golwg]

Also, my uncle like some of the Apple software, one he likes is the Garage Band one as he is learning to play the guitar and he has seen it in action aqnd wants to use that on a PC.

I know AMD is the best etc etc but try telling my stubbon uncle! lol

Intel is what floats his boat!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I would look for a refurbished Intel Mac.

[golwg]

I would look for a refurbished Intel Mac.

That is another idea. Still, he has said he wants a PC. I know you can put windows on a mac but even a refurb on costs a fair bit for the spec that comes with them.

I think that an i3 setup would be the best thing to get for him. If he then can't get Hackintosh on it then thats tough! lol

Do i need to be fussy on what ram to get for the i3?

[LaxBlade]

Is it worth going the 775 socket route? I quite like some of the CPU's and mobo's etc and the relative is only fussy about intel, nothing else!

An i3 is simply not good value for money - compared to an i5 750 2.66Ghz with intel Turbo o/c.

The Best i3 CPU, is over £200, and the Best i5 750 is only £150, with nearly twice the power off an i3 as an i5 750 has 4 cores and 4 threads.... Core i3 has only 2 cores, its aimed at the entry level user.

So yes, Off course the Core i5 is the better choice all around +Plus remember the i3, i5, and latest i7 all use the same socket 1156 Motherboard.

Just adding my 2 cents....

[scaryjim]

An i3 is simply not good value for money ... The Best i3 CPU, is over £200, and the Best i5 750 is only £150 ... Off course the Core i5 is the better choice all around

Please try reading the whole thread, and please try knowing what you're talking about! The most expensive i3 CPU is only ~ £107. "The best i5 750"? There are worse i5 750s cheaper? What?

With the i5 750 you need a discreet graphics card, so that's at least another £20, pushing the price to > £170. The cheapest i3 is only ~ £95, and doesn't need a discreet graphics card, making the price difference £75 - that's the cost of a decent H55 motherboard! An i5 750 isn't worth the money if all those extra transistors are going to spend 99.9% of their time twiddling their thumbs.

@the OP: if your Uncle wants to run Mac OSX tell him to quit messing around and get a Mac, or to do it all himself. If you get involved with "hackintosh"ing for him you'll end up on 24hour call out to sort out his problems, and (IMNSHO) that's hassle you can do without. If he isn't willing to pay for the legal version of what he wants (i.e. buy a Mac and bootcamp Win7 onto it) walk away. It's not worth it.

[LaxBlade]

@scaryjim

Please, have you NO manners...? Ive read the whole thread and its borring; Please forget about patronizing me too... remember the forum rules...!! (Ive have the right to my opinion and it says)

What would you know about CPU's Anywayz, like your rig is rather old and borring man, seriously no offence, its just how I see it.! - And I'm not going to get into a slinging match with ya either, your probably just a kid, if you think an i3 is better value than an i5, don't you read up on these things on AVforms.com or TOMS Hardware.com. // obviously not.! Facepalm

[Terbinator]

@scaryjim

Please, have you NO manners...? Ive read the whole thread and its borring; Please forget about patronizing me too... remember the forum rules...!! (Ive have the right to my opinion and it says)

What would you know about CPU's Anywayz, like your rig is rather old and borring man, seriously no offence, its just how I see it.! - And I'm not going to get into a slinging match with ya either, your probably just a kid, if you think an i3 is better value than an i5, don't you read up on these things on AVforms.com or TOMS Hardware.com. // obviously not.! Facepalm

Are you trying to Troll on purpose ? 'Jim's rig has nothing to do with his knowledge, age or position here at Hexus. I also don't understand where you get his rig being boring from, If it was a X6800 that's 3 generations old would it still be boring ? In addition to the rest your doing yourself no favours by referring to an A/V site of all places in relation to 'Tech - Try Anandtech or Arstechnica in addition to Hexus and many other places.

[LaxBlade]

A word of warning on the M3A78-T - the shipping BIOS doesn't recognise the X4 940 as standard. I know this as I just built a computer for a friend with the same combination from Scan

That said, the processor is running at the correct speed and with full cache and everything - it just registers as an "unrecognised CPU" @ 3GHz...

Downloading the new BIOS from ASUS took forever - they seem to have busy periods when you can't get anything of their servers at all. Then you try 2 hours later and everything flies down. Not done the BIOS update yet: due to the risk of bricking the mobo and it not being my PC You should check if scansure covers you for failed BIOS flashing - if it does I think it'd be worth getting it for that mobo, because you're going to have to flash the BIOS really...

That said, the combination of the 940 and the M3A78-T works a treat...

I see your still rambling on about yesterdays hardware, pretending you know a lot, when really you know very little, I also do not like the way you seem to be bossing everyone around, who happens to have a different point of view from yours mate..... read the forum rules, rudeness is not welcome.!

[LaxBlade]

Are you trying to Troll on purpose ? 'Jim's rig has nothing to do with his knowledge, age or position here at Hexus. I also don't understand where you get his rig being boring from, If it was a X6800 that's 3 generations old would it still be boring ? In addition to the rest your doing yourself no favours by referring to an A/V site of all places in relation to 'Tech - Try Anandtech or Arstechnica in addition to Hexus and many other places.

NO I'M NOT TRYING TO TROLL AT ALL you rather rude little boy; its not your beef son, pls, mind your own business, walking around as if your the Boss or something....

Freedom of speech learn some manners, get an education son.

its people like you and your friend are the reasons decent folks will no join forums.!!!

[jim]

An i3 is simply not good value for money - compared to an i5 750 2.66Ghz with intel Turbo o/c.

The Best i3 CPU, is over £200, and the Best i5 750 is only £150, with nearly twice the power off an i3 as an i5 750 has 4 cores and 4 threads.... Core i3 has only 2 cores, its aimed at the entry level user.

So yes, Off course the Core i5 is the better choice all around +Plus remember the i3, i5, and latest i7 all use the same socket 1156 Motherboard.

Just adding my 2 cents....

I don't care whether your £200 figure it correct, the "best" is not worth worrying about. The "best" i7 costs nearly £1k, but why should that affect the the value for money of an i7 920?

It shouldn't.

And quite why you think scaryjim knows nothing about computers because his spec is old, I don't know. We're all fairly capable of knowing about the performance of components without actually owning them, courtesy of hardware review sites.

Oh, and your attitude is disgusting.

NO I'M NOT TRYING TO TROLL AT ALL you rather rude little boy; its not your beef son, pls, mind your own business, walking around as if your the Boss or something....

Freedom of speech learn some manners, get an education son.

its people like you and your friend are the reasons decent folks will no join forums.!!!

That'll explain why you signed up then.

[scaryjim]

Guys, please stop feeding the troll, he's really not worth it.

LaxBlade: I didn't reply to your rather rude comments for two reasons: firstly, I knew that several other people would come and berate you on my behalf because, whether you like it or not, I've earned a bit of respect here at Hexus, and secondly, it was obvious from the tone of your post that you were incapable of following your own advice and understanding that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if they don't agree with you.

Frankly, my style is to be rather brusque and straightforward. I'm sure that sometimes that can come across as rude. But most people here still manage to engage me in intelligent conversation without slinging personal abuse around or questioning my age and experience. I think the 185 thanks I've received in the last year of contributing extensively to these forums gives a good idea of whether my advice is worthwhile or not. You've currently written 9 posts and managed to abuse two longstanding and respected members of Hexus. Please stop for a second and do the maths yourself - you must realise that isn't a sensible way to act in a forum.

Now, I'm sure you're going to reply with more "opinions" - I'm quite happy for you to do so but I will not be indulging you with any further replies until such times as you show yourself capable of having a mature discussion. Other Hexusites: I appreciate the support but I'd ask that you leave this one alone now and let LaxBlade whiffle to himself.

[golwg]

The Best i3 CPU, is over £200, and the Best i5 750 is only £150, with nearly twice the power off an i3 as an i5 750 has 4 cores and 4 threads.... Core i3 has only 2 cores, its aimed at the entry level user.

Waw, where did you get your info? The Beano or Dandy?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

That is another idea. Still, he has said he wants a PC. I know you can put windows on a mac but even a refurb on costs a fair bit for the spec that comes with them.

I think that an i3 setup would be the best thing to get for him. If he then can't get Hackintosh on it then thats tough! lol

Do i need to be fussy on what ram to get for the i3?

I had a quick look at some benchmarks and for image editing and video editing work the Q8400 is a better choice than a Core i3:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/defau...=89&p2=118&c=1

You could also use the cheaper socket 775 motherboards and DDR2.