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    Re: 980X help....

    IIRC you cant use a card for physx unless all the cards in the system are nvidia.

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    Re: 980X help....

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    IIRC you cant use a card for physx unless all the cards in the system are nvidia.
    Normally no but I think there are ways around this such as specific relases of nvidia/ati drivers etc.
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    Re: 980X help....

    Here is a comparison of the Core i5 2400 against the Core i7 980X:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/t...ns-in-a-row/11

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    Re: 980X help....

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Here is a comparison of the Core i5 2400 against the Core i7 980X:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/t...ns-in-a-row/11
    And thats with 4 threads vs the 12 of the 980X
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    Re: 980X help....

    Which brings one to the conclusion that 4 > 12. That's how good sandy bridge is. It broke maths
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    Re: 980X help....

    I only have one 920 which would bring me to buy two of the 980X's so I can use in both systems and enjoy my motherboards I've bought and had for over a year without using them.. I will upgrade the 5970's when I can. I will keep one as I'll use it for a lan rig along with my 920

    I will upgrade the boards and the CPU's when the next platform comes out. I'd just like to make the most of the boards I have. 2 years is a long time, so I figure I had better make the most of it

    I can upgrade the GPU's as and when I feel I need to and if they dont play they games I want Besides I think it might need upgrading as my monitors might tell me I need to

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    Re: 980X help....

    Not really sure where you can head from [dual] 5970[s] in terms of scalability. It would be a very shallow gradient of improvement if any, and you soon start to lose performance while spending more if you try things like 4-way SLI.
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    Re: 980X help....

    It'll just be a single card with an Nvidia card for Physx, but we'll see what crops up Currently just one 30" screen is going to be using the power of the 5970 but we'll see what time does to things

    My only concern is that I might not have enough slots free!

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    Re: 980X help....

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Here is a comparison of the Core i5 2400 against the Core i7 980X:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/t...ns-in-a-row/11
    Come on. You know that particular benchmark simply doesn't thread well meaning it's simply about the speed of each core rather than the processor overall.
    You may have a strong argument that a £300 CPU in 18 months time will be faster than a 980X but don't ruin that using a strawman.
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    Re: 980X help....

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    Come on. You know that particular benchmark simply doesn't thread well meaning it's simply about the speed of each core rather than the processor overall.
    You may have a strong argument that a £300 CPU in 18 months time will be faster than a 980X but don't ruin that using a strawman.
    Actually, I was just showing that each core is actually faster at a lower clockspeed and this is for a CPU that is coming out in months and is meant to be under £200. On top of this Sandy Bridge also has a dedicated video transcode engine. The preview was also done without turbo mode being activated.

    This means the Ivy Bridge will probably be even faster and that is being released next year.

    Of course AMD Bulldozer is the unknown element here and seems to be optimised towards multi threaded applications and that is being released next year too.

    So basically you could be seeing the 980X being matched or exceeded in multi-threaded applications in under 18 months at a far lower price-point.

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    Re: 980X help....

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post

    Of course AMD Bulldozer is the unknown element here and seems to be optimised towards multi threaded applications and that is being released next year too.
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    Re: 980X help....

    Gaming has very different requirements to say image processing or other computer tasks. The 980X, and other i7 9**s for that matter, are server derived chips so excel at server type workloads. For gaming lynnfield is already better than most i7 9** chips, and sandy bridge is going to be another jump faster.

    Bulldozer is targeting the server space as well, primarily, so I wouldn't bet on it jumping level with Sandy bridge for games.

    But then there's also the whole platform to consider. Ultimately I went for X58 because I needed, or foresaw a need for, a lot of connectivity and p55 didn't give me it. Sandy Bridge should be better, with proper PCI-E lanes, however the p67 motherboards seen so far are quite disappointing. Bulldozer will be better than those, but I couldn't wait that long.

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    Re: 980X help....

    I just want to make the most of what I have now and worry about what will be later Until the newer chipsets are released, all the bugs are out of that, then I'll upgrade because I'm damn sure I wont be noticing anything being slow when I use these rigs! At the moment the fastest thing I've been using is a Atom 1.6Ghz notepad with on board graphics!! I think an old S3 PCI gpu would be faster!!

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    Re: 980X help....

    Kalniel I thought it was llano or whatever it was going to be called that was going to be for the desktop market and bulldozer for the server market. Although llano was going to be derived form the bulldozer architecture ... or something along those lines lol. Also I didn't think bulldozer was coming until like the 3rd or 4th quarter of 2011. I wonder what AMD will do to compete with the current crop of Intel processors ... can they lower their prices on the phenom IIs even more!?

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    Re: 980X help....

    Quote Originally Posted by c.ruel View Post
    Kalniel I thought it was llano or whatever it was going to be called that was going to be for the desktop market and bulldozer for the server market. Although llano was going to be derived form the bulldozer architecture ... or something along those lines lol. Also I didn't think bulldozer was coming until like the 3rd or 4th quarter of 2011. I wonder what AMD will do to compete with the current crop of Intel processors ... can they lower their prices on the phenom IIs even more!?
    Llano is phenom based still, but with a graphics card portion (it's a Fusion APU) and should hit quite soon. Again, like sandy bridge, I don't need an onboard GPU/APU, and dislike wasting the silicon budget for it.

    Bulldozer is quite a different architecture, designed for servers primarily, but there will be a desktop variant (codename Zambezi) later in 2011.

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