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About LinkBacksI would have suggested stuff like optimising tools but that really strays into tweaking/optimising your gaming rig.
Maybe your next guide then Vaul
I would have suggested stuff like optimising tools but that really strays into tweaking/optimising your gaming rig.
Maybe your next guide then Vaul
Looking good so far Vaul.
No mention of Watercooling though. I know its not fully mainstream yet *BUT* i feel it is due a mention even if its a dismissle as being too dangerous/expensive.
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I agree with you mate, some kind of mention is due, I don't know if vaul'd want to write about the whole thing or just talking about the pre built kits.Originally Posted by GAteKeeper
Last edited by r1zeek; 21-12-2004 at 09:00 PM.
The fact is that the 3200+ needs less FSB OC'ing to reach any speed. That must make for:
a) An easier OC
b) A cooler OC
The 3000+ is better on pure bangs per buck, but the 3200+ gets you a worthwhile improvement for little extra outlay. Unless you are using extreme cooling - but if you can afford that you should be using an FX-55 anyway.
Yes, that's why the 3500+ is also in the picture here because it has more power at stock, but then as already mentioned (I think) to get a decent clock from it you'd need extreme cooling, and that's not very common in gaming rigs.
The situation is the same with most gaming rigs though, if you can afford it, get the fastest (within reason) that you can get, unless you are absolutely bonkers for overclocking
The 3500+ can do 2.6ghz, maybe more on decent air cooling, that's stock FX-55 speeds, and blazingly fast, but the 3200+ will probably do that as well, so I suppose its how deep your pockets are and how much you are prepared to overclock to secure a bargain.Yes, that's why the 3500+ is also in the picture here because it has more power at stock, but then as already mentioned (I think) to get a decent clock from it you'd need extreme cooling, and that's not very common in gaming rigs.
The situation is the same with most gaming rigs though, if you can afford it, get the fastest (within reason) that you can get, unless you are absolutely bonkers for overclocking
My point was that you could possibly add something like a fourth section. So along with Cheap as Chips, The Sweet Spot, and Pricey Perfection, in some cases (such as CPU and motherboard) a fourth section might be appropiate i.e. the choice for overclockers/enthusiasts.
"Well, there was your Uncle Tiberius who died wrapped in cabbage leaves but we assumed that was a freak accident."
There's been alot of posts on what Winchester is best, check out this thread, see the overclocking results for yourself.
Ok, sounds good mate. I'll add a 4th section and a recomendation later tonight.
Suggestions for the CPU, PSU, GPU and Case then please lads, that appeals specificaly to the overclocker.
Cheers.
Re - watercooling. I dont think it should have any mention in this thread. There is just too much information and it just wouldnt fit in here, maybe a seperate thread. Afterall this is aimed at, i suppose, people building there first gaming pc - watercooling is a bit like the deep end of the swimmingpool. All the watercooling info anyone will ever need.
Cpu - winnie 3000+ imo. I dont belive there is enough difference to the 3200+ for the extra cost, only get it if your limited on fsb ability.
Case - nothing cheap and tacky. No lights blidning you. It just looks crap.
When overclocking, the cooling aspect of a case becomes far more important.
As for the overclocking CPU, I'd say the Winchester 3000+ - it should be able to reach the same sort of speeds as the 3200+, and is cheaper.
"Well, there was your Uncle Tiberius who died wrapped in cabbage leaves but we assumed that was a freak accident."
3000+ it is. I think it should be the Sweet Spot and Overclockers choice. Its a bargain which ever way you look at it really.
Hey great thread Vaul
Very informative, helped me with a gaming rig i'm building for my little bro for xmas, maybe you could do a bit on monitors?
Thanks for the kind words.
Glad to have helped!
I will be adding Monitors, RAM, Input Devices (Gaming Mice, Keyboards, etc) and anything else that we think is worth adding as time goes by. I want this to be a long term project, and once finished, it will continue to be updated so its never outdated information.
Personally I would say that the 3200+ is better if you can afford the slight increase.
2.6GHZ (if your cpu will do it) is 9x289 (3000+) or 10 x260 (3200+). Imho you are more likely to get RAM that will run 260 than 289 at the same timings
Monitors will be a good subject, one thing that is often overlooked when building a rig (well, for me anywayThanks for the kind words.
Glad to have helped!
I will be adding Monitors, RAM, Input Devices (Gaming Mice, Keyboards, etc) and anything else that we think is worth adding as time goes by. I want this to be a long term project, and once finished, it will continue to be updated so its never outdated information.
For input device, you have to have a decent wired optical mouse, (or the MX7000 (iirc)) a normal keyboard (none of that Z-Boards stuff) and a controller (such as a PS2 controller) or other game controller.
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