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    FX57 to much for SN25?

    I ask as ive just poped one in and fired up Prime 95 and temps have shot up to 66 degrees under full load, at 65 degrees the fans kicked up to full speed
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    Im thinking the fact I had to remove the duct to make way for my 7800GTX didnt help eather, still I put a extra fan there in its place to help.
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    SFF systems are always a compromise between performance and portability. Shuttles just aren't designed to be the highest powered systems, they are designed to be small. Hard to get enough air flowing through them (without excessive noise) and just not enough room. They are good for SFF but not exactly an enthusiast's dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormPC
    SFF systems are always a compromise between performance and portability. Shuttles just aren't designed to be the highest powered systems, they are designed to be small. Hard to get enough air flowing through them (without excessive noise) and just not enough room. They are good for SFF but not exactly an enthusiast's dream.
    I disagree entirely. The SN25P is the best Shuttle ever developed, it's cooling capabilities are far superior to any previous models manufactured by Shuttle. I find your statement to be a generalised view on Shuttle's SFF systems as a whole. In what way do they lack performance? Mine performs just as well as people with the same spec system as me (bar the actual shuttle), the only loss of my particular SFF is that obviously it doesn't support SLI, but this isn't a problem as that's not really a requirement in this current generation of games. It's still upgradeable as it's S939 and incorporates the PCI-Express bus.

    From your statement i'm not sure if you've had any experience with the SN25P, perhaps you shouldn't spread your view over all SFF's and come to an inaccurate conclusion.

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    Build any system with a Shuttle and I'll build one based on the same platform with a mid-tower Lian Li and let's see which one performs better.

    You disagree with my statement that Shuttles SFF is designed to be small? What are you smoking?

    Shuttles are good for their size but they are not the best for performance.

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    You're an overclocker aren't you? Or you're looking from an overclocking perspective? If so, state that.

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    Storm is in constant arguments.

    Just ignore it before it gets out of control.......................

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    StormPC my good man, no need to defend your opinion quite so aggressively. Despite your opinion, you're not always necessarily right, nor is there necessarily a straight right/wrong answer.

    Plat: An FX57 in a Shuttle is a bit much, but not necessarily impossible. The question is, once the fans kick in at full speed, can it stop the temperature from spiralling out of control? If the system stays stable then you should be OK, though my next concern would be how long the components in that rig would last, given the conditions they're in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeZZeR
    You're an overclocker aren't you? Or you're looking from an overclocking perspective? If so, state that.
    I am a system builder so I have to try to see all perspectives. And WTF is it with you guys? You take rediculous positions (like Shuttles are not designed to be small) and call me argumentative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormPC
    I am a system builder so I have to try to see all perspectives. And WTF is it with you guys? You take rediculous positions (like Shuttles are not designed to be small) and call me argumentative.
    KeZZeR isn't disagreeing about Shuttle's being small, he's disagreeing about Shuttle's not being capable of housing high performance components.
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    Gotta disagree with you there storm, If I put together a SN25P with a FX57 and a 7800GTX then build a system in a mid tower case with the same components the speed would be exacly the same.

    As for the heat ive just upgraded to the latest bios as the shipping one came out before the San Diego and Venice cores and now I read 46 under load, thats with the duct back in place modded to allow the 7800 to fit
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    Feeling the heat coming out of the side its the same as the heat that came from the back of my SN95 with the old FX55 in it so im happy its safe

    End of the day theres not much more I can do, its not overclocked, Shuttle say this kit works togther so if anything fails ill have no probs RMA'ng it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum
    End of the day theres not much more I can do, its not overclocked, Shuttle say this kit works togther so if anything fails ill have no probs RMA'ng it
    Fair play then. Nice little rig you've got there, by the sounds
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    Pretty cool temps there, check my sig, that runs at about 45 degrees so not much difference there. There again, i'm running an older BIOS revision

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormPC
    I am a system builder so I have to try to see all perspectives. And WTF is it with you guys? You take rediculous positions (like Shuttles are not designed to be small) and call me argumentative.
    You're generalising again. I never said Shuttles aren't designed to be small and I never thought you were argumentative to be honest. I live a life on IRC, at least your opinion had a base to sit on

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    The original problem seems to be have sorted now lads, lets leave it at that. Storm is obviously a tower man, and keZZer a shuttle man. Like penitum and amd . Think what storm was trying to say was that you might get better cooling and power supply from a tower system as there is room too add more cooling. Case closed i hope
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