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    What to get for £500 build for 3D Modelling/Rendering/Adobe?

    Hi guys,

    I'm at uni doing a design degree which involves a lot of 3D modeling/rendering on mainly Alias Studiotools and working with Photoshop

    Last yr I was running a now 4yr old P4 1.6Ghz Dell system with upgraded memory to 768mb and 128mb graphics card.

    I'm now looking at building a new PC from scratch just using the monitor, keyboard and mouse from the Dell. So I will just need to budget for the tower (I have about £500). Already have operating system and software.

    It will be used primarily for 3D modeling/rendering and Adobe Photoshop etc. But also broadband.

    My budget is about £500 and my priorities are: fast as poss, quiet (would like water cooling), possibly overclockable, and upgradeable. If possible I would like it to be twin monitored.

    What I'm asking is for someone to be able to advise me on all the components to use because I haven't built a PC before (have done upgrades and maintenance) and don't know what's best to match up and what's best for overclocking/upgradeability.

    Have looked at CustomPC Magazine's 'Build a Perfect PC for Just £500' in April but don't know whether this would already be out of date and any good for what I need.

    HELP! Cheers guys. Phil

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    You're not gonna get all that for £500. If I were you, I'd scrap even thinking about overclocking and watercooling, and go with something like this:

    AMD Sempron 64Bit 3100+ S754 256K (1.8Ghz) - £73.21
    Asus K8N4-E Deluxe S754 nForce4 - £59.88
    (2x) 1Gb Corsair Value Select, DDR, PC3200- (2x) £80.97 - £161.94
    128MB ScanFX GEFORCE 6600GT - £101.16
    200Gb Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 10 - £60.29
    Coolermaster Centurion 531 Silver Aluminium Case - £42.30
    380W Tagan TG380-U01 - £37.47
    NEC ND-4550A Silver - £30.66
    1.44Mb Sony Silver Floppy Disk Drive OEM - £4.34

    I built a system very similar to this just the other week and it ran rather nicely.
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    Rendering is very mHz dependant in my experience. Our best performing CAD machines are all currently Intel. Also 1gb ram should be seen as a minimum.
    Having said that I've yet to get to spec up a dual core machine so I can't comment. But that's a little outside your remit
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightshadowUK
    You're not gonna get all that for £500. If I were you, I'd scrap even thinking about overclocking and watercooling, and go with something like this:

    AMD Sempron 64Bit 3100+ S754 256K (1.8Ghz) - £73.21
    Asus K8N4-E Deluxe S754 nForce4 - £59.88
    (2x) 1Gb 2x512Mb Corsair, DDR400/PC3200 - (2x) £65.96 - £131.92
    128MB ScanFX GEFORCE 6600GT - £101.16
    200Gb Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 10 - £60.29
    Coolermaster Centurion 531 Silver Aluminium Case - £42.30
    380W Tagan TG380-U01 - £37.47
    NEC ND-4550A Silver - £30.66
    1.44Mb Sony Silver Floppy Disk Drive OEM - £4.34

    Total - £541.23

    I built a system very similar to this just the other week and it ran rather nicely.
    i'd strongly disagree with 4x 512mib - it uses more power, generates more heat, and doesn't play well with amd64 memory controllers. 2x 1gib is far better

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    D'oh yeah, my bad. I was trying to keep to his budget as best I could as one stick of 1GB costs about £80. The Asus only comes with 3 DIMMs anyway so 4 sticks would be no good.

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    And of course if you get it from Scan, there's no carriage charge once you've got enough posts under your belt
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    No charge if it's a 5 minute drive away either.

    How many posts do you need anyway?

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    You just need 25 posts the day before ordering, it's all explained in this thread
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    Thanks tfor the replies! I know £500 won't get me much in the sector I need it for but I'm a skint student! I've stretched my budget to come up with this from the scan.co.uk website...

    1 LN10804 Gigabyte GA-8I945P-G - FSB1066, PCI-Ex16, DCDDRII667,4xSATAII, Raid, 8ChAudio, Lan,ATX £70.30

    1 LN11055 Intel Pentium® D 820 Dual core 2x2.8GHz 800FSB S775 2x1MB cache Retail inc.Fan (3 year warranty) £176.58

    2 LN9871 512Mb DDR2 PC4200, 533 MHz, 2x32Mx64, non-ECC, 240 DIMM, unbuffered, CL4 Infinion Retail £49.56

    1 LN7925 425W HiperPower HPU-4S425 4th Gen Quiet Dual Fan Active PFC (24/20 pin)(ATX/BTX) £35.12

    1 LN9888 128MB Leadtek WinFast PCI-E PX6600 GT TDH 6600 GT £98.11

    1 LN9867 CoolRiver Complete water cooler Deluxe Version (VGA/N.Bridge/CPU) using 120mm + Fan Cont £58.74

    1 LN11657 200GB Samsung SpinPoint SP2004C 7200rpm, 8MB, SATA II Fluid Dynamic Bearings, 25dBA £63.39

    1 LN11909 CoolerMaster Centurion 5 Case Black Body (Silver Trimmings) w/o PSU £41.13

    Total: £595.55 + £15 P&P (hopefully can get it for free from scan.co.uk)

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    I will be using the monitor, keyboard, mouse, CD drive, CDR drive and floppy drive from my current system.

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    So, what do you guys think of my spec? How could you improve on it?

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    I'm aiming for a quiet PC which is why I've spent on water cooling. I know that's it's not a particularly good cooling system but I won't be overclocking so only needs to keep things quiet and not over work on the cooling front.

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    I'm most unsure about the graphics card because I don't really have a clue about them. Could someone please recommend one to me. Because I will be connecting the watercooling to the heatsink of the graphics card will I save money by buying a card without a fan? I need to be sure the water cooling system I mentioned in my spec will connect to the chosen graphics card.

    Thanks

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    If its for serious number crunching, a dual-core AMD may be a better choice. They are generally more powerful for this sort of thing.

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    I've heard the opposite. I've heard that Intels are better for number crunching and AMD are better for gaming etc. Plus AMDs are a lot more expensive!

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    Now got the price down to £585.40 for the same spec.

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