opteron question

[killkoy]

is this opterons compatible with non-ECC memory
And does anyone know what the UP means(i notice it only says UP on the socket 939 ones)

[ifyouknowme]

i cant really see the point of a single opteron they will struggle to take the server markets away from xeons although they must be gettin about even now

[arthurleung]

i cant really see the point of a single opteron they will struggle to take the server markets away from xeons although they must be gettin about even now

I don't mean the server market but I mean "server" CPU sales. When Opteron's sales SHOOTS UP, what the market analysis will say? "AMD sold massive single Opteron CPU, exceed Intel's sales, blah blah blah, etc" And of course those coporate heads will see "Oh, AMD is good, since everyone is getting it, lets buy AMD too."

Not that I am bashing AMD though. That is what you call Marketing

[csi_grissom]

doh!

[csi_grissom]

thats a fair comment guys.
just with technology moving so fast the stuff u buy is out of date within 6-12 months, at least the ferrari would prob hold or make money...lol
i just thought id find people who were doing it more for a reason at the end rather just a high score on the championship league...lol
BUFF - But i wouldnt do that m8, if i wanna play games that bad id prob buy and xbox and ps2 and chip them and pay pennies for games, im interested in getting the x2 chip for the simple reason of being able to do more than 1 job at a time, not to gain a few more points on doom, i do play these games and like u lot enjoy the fun, but my system is a simple built system and i find 3.2ghz fast enough for the work and play i do, upgrading the video card is always an issue i admit and i like to build new systems as well but if i do build a new system its with an idea to best serve me doing summit not worrying about the clock speed and the heat temp or if my memory chips are in perfect timing, it must be like religion, u are either into it or your not and i respect your interests and fun u get from it so dont read this like im nagging just trying to get a better view of why.

[iranu]

xtremesystems is an overclockers site where people attempt world records etc. They spend £1000 on cooling kit then buy 5 opteron 144's to see how far they will go. Next week they buy 4 Intel 630's to see how far they go - It's a specialist overclocking site.

I for one do not want to spend shed loads of cash on cooling, what I want to do is find out whether the AMD opteron 144 stepping xyz is worth buying so I can clock it using moderate cooling to get £650's worth of processor for £100 plus £30 cooler. I link to that site to show people that 3Ghz on air with a 146 is easily possible. Many people run watercooling anyway and therefore >3Ghz is possible.

csi_grissom, you seem to fail to understand that a faster chip = faster performance, whether that be in games or other apps and the reason for people buying these cpu is to get faster performance for FREE. A 1Ghz overclock to 3Ghz is faster than any other AMD chip (at stock) if you can find me an AMD chip at 3Ghz stock for £130 let me and the rest of the world know. It's well known that high end gfx cards, let alone SLi/xfire, are cpu limited therefore the faster the cpu the higher the graphics performance. With new games starting to use HDR this power is required. I have no desire for an X2 as this is of no benefit to me - no apps that I use will utililise two cores. What I want is the fastest cpu possible for minimum outlay.

With my 3Ghz AMD opteron cpu I will not need to upgrade for another year or longer until M2/F2 settles down. I'm currently running an xp2500 @ 2.3Ghz - I certainly notice the difference over stock speeds in gaming and everyday use.

Personally I hate console games they are naff compared to the PC, fps, MMORPG etc, having to but 3 consoles to be able to play all the games, extra cost for internet play etc etc so I'm more than happy to spend £30-40 extra on a decent cooler to get the cpu speed I need to run my new rig at 1600x1200 with AA and AF on. (with a highend gfx card)

[NightshadowUK]

is this opterons compatible with non-ECC memory
And does anyone know what the UP means(i notice it only says UP on the socket 939 ones)

The UPs are just the S939 Opterons, you answered your own question.

[Ricco]

Iranu,

we all have our own little quirks that dictate the way we buy - I can't see a problem with your reasoning, except that even buying with known steppings doing well is still a gamble - maybe its worth paying a little extra for one thats already been tested/shown to do the Speed you require.

[BUFF]

BUFF - But i wouldnt do that m8, if i wanna play games that bad id prob buy and xbox and ps2 and chip them and pay pennies for games.

You can't really compare Xbox & ps2 games to those a high end PC (I've got all 3 ) as iranu has already said.
Fair enough when Xbox 360 comes out it will give a high end PC a good run for it's money but a year down the line it will have been left behind & in 3 years ...
I admit that it will only cost the same as a high-end gfx card but the next gen Xbox & PS3 games are set to cost £50 if the games companies get their way which is more than PC games.

[killkoy]

is it compatible with non ecc memory

[iranu]

^ yes it is - the idea is for small business severs to use the less expensive non-eec registered ram.

Iranu,

we all have our own little quirks that dictate the way we buy - I can't see a problem with your reasoning, except that even buying with known steppings doing well is still a gamble - maybe its worth paying a little extra for one thats already been tested/shown to do the Speed you require.

Yep that's not a bad way to go about it.

Overclocking is always a gamble but you can narrow the odds of a good overclock by doing the research. Even then it's not gauranteed because there will be a statistical variation in performance between chips on the same wafer as said above but your chances are definety skewed in your favour if you have a chip from a batch that people are reporting good results from.

I think what's exited us all is the fact that nearly everyone who is posting is gettting a 700mhz speed increase for very little input. Even if your 144/146 chip will only do 2.5-2.6Ghz it's still cheaper than a 3000/3200 (at the time I bought my 146) and has the extra cache.

I missed out on the 1700 jihub phenomenom. Got a xp2500 @ 2.3 Ghz atm and now would like another bang for buck chip. - shame I have to wait a bit for gfx card and mobo or I would be posting results.