Spec me new dev server

[TiG]

Its not mission critical, and its gonna be PC2100 DDR with Xeons and certainly not crucial, i hate their ram.

TiG

[Stoo]

No, it's not a live server but a dev server, even so it's still a server, and running anything other than ECC in a server is asking for trouble.

Besides if the company has a policy about the RAID and an Intel only setup, you can be sure as hell they'll have a policy about ECC RAM being mandatory in a server. Otherwise TiG would probably be able to get away a cheapo desktop box with some extra ram and a few HDD's in RAID 5 slung in..

[Stoo]

Originally posted by TiG
Its not mission critical, and its gonna be PC2100 DDR with Xeons and certainly not crucial, i hate their ram.

TiG

What's wrong with it? (Not picking a fight, just curious )

[Zak33]

Originally posted by Stoo
What's wrong with it? (Not picking a fight, just curious )

Ditto.....but I AM picking a fight.....

besides....PC2700 is same money as PC2100 pretty much....and its gotta be more stable as its higher rated...

besides.......if its a server for work..its gotta be mission critical....its not like a home PC for pRon distribution.....its for work....so its gotta be 100% stable.....

Get your gloves on boyo.......

[spikegifted]

However, RAM manufacturers have spent more time producing PC2100 parts then PC2700 ones, so any problems they may have had is more likely to have been ironed out. More likely the RAM chips are produced using the same process as the higher rated RAM anyway, just being binned down to PC2100 to fill the market.

Additionally, this rig is not going to be overclocked and so additional memory bandwidth will not be a factor. Good PC2100 parts are now real commodity items, so get good quality ones from 'generic' brands should not be a problem.

[TiG]

If you want a proper argument, about mission critical memory i'll give you one, I'd bet that ECC memory running at PC2100 speeds at standard settings, probably 2.5-7-3-3 would be less likely to fail that pc27000 crucial memory at 2-6-2-2 speeds.

How many hardware failures do you see on memory within mission critical servers, servers like dell don't use particularly branded memory.

TiG

[BlackSheep]

Originally posted by TiG
If you want a proper argument, about mission critical memory i'll give you one, I'd bet that ECC memory running at PC2100 speeds at standard settings, probably 2.5-7-3-3 would be less likely to fail that pc27000 crucial memory at 2-6-2-2 speeds.

How many hardware failures do you see on memory within mission critical servers, servers like dell don't use particularly branded memory.

TiG

If memory fails, it fails, doesn't matter whether it ECC or otherwise ... I would still go with the higher FSB CPU with HT and corsair 3200 running at stock than a pair of lower spec xeons - but then it depends on how many connections you are hammering the box with - if it's a dev server only then you will appreciate one faster CPU with a faster FSB (memory synced in dual channel) for running queries than two Xeons.

[Zak33]

Originally posted by TiG
If you want a proper argument, about mission critical memory i'll give you one, I'd bet that ECC memory running at PC2100 speeds at standard settings, probably 2.5-7-3-3 would be less likely to fail that pc27000 crucial memory at 2-6-2-2 speeds.
TiG

ahh.....but ECC 2700 running as PC2100 at 2.5-7-3-3 would be fine too...wouldn't it....and you can get it for the same dough....

so in no way did I suggest you run it at 2-6-2-2

And further...yes further....how do you know where Dell buy their memory? Just cos it doesn't have a sticker on, doesn't mean it aint branded stuff......the etchings on the memory chips are not always legit, cos you can put what your customer WANTS on them.

and further....yes further.....the quality of PCB that the memory is "nailed " onto is vital. And generic stuff, frankly, sucks.

When that "non mission critical" server that TiG Enterprises built FALLS OVER cos he saved £8 on memory, then TiG Enterprises will be sad.

In every way, cut back on the CPU speed by a fraction and spend it on MEMORY QUALITY, and QUANTITY.

and I know NOTHING ABOUT SERVERS AT ALL...so now ignore the LOT