Amd Uk Wants My Locked Barton

[Alan]

Please don't flame but I don't understand the significance of the first post. Something has obviously happened before this post. Would anyone care to enlighten me?...please

[Enverex]

Bartons were normally unlocked meaning they were overclockable by just changing the multiplier. But not they are locked and not even using bypassing methods such as conductive paper allows you to unlock them, meaning you can only overclock them via the FSB.

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[Alan]

Thank you for that. But since thy are now locked, why does AMD UK want this particular locked Barton?

[directhex]

because amd uk didn't know about it, as far as they're concerned they should still be unlocked

[Austin]

Originally posted by Alan
Thank you for that. But since thy are now locked, why does AMD UK want this particular locked Barton?

In a way that's the real question. There's no doubt it makes the SktA AthlonXP route far less attractive (you can no longer be sure of optimal RAM and mobo usage and are forced to guess how your CPU will o/c). What p'd most people off was how secretive this was, no whispers at all ... just all of a sudden a huge surge of people buying AMD CPUs and reporting they couldn't adjust the multiplier.

Just for a little more background AMD were streets ahead of Intel for a long time both in perf and price. The first SktA Athlons were locked but were very easy and risk free to unlock. The next true step up in Athlons was the AthlonXP (pally), AMD were still comfortably the best choice and this time AMD made them VERY hard to unlock. It took a while for AMD to perfect the 0.13mu process which was the next step up for them (TbredA) and it took even longer to get it how it should have been (TbredB) and by this time Intel really had a very competative alternative. AMD made some of the TbredA unlocked and far easier to unlock when they were locked. ALL TbredB were comletely unlocked (XP2400+ and up and later practically all new CPUs from XP1700+ up). Then Barton came out which was basically TbredB with double the L2 cache and boosted the AthlonXP up to XP3200+. Again Barton was always unlocked. The only problems people really had with TbredB and Barton was if they used a stock multipler 13x or higher as it 'confused' some mobos ... or if their mobo lacked multiplier adjustment. Basically the problem from AMD's point of view was the TbredB and Barton were nearly always capable of XP2800+ to XP3200+ speeds (even the XP1700+) ... but this made them VERY popular. Then all of a sudden around week 38 this year all Barton started to become locked. Many TbredB are replaced with Thorton (Barton with half the cache disabled usually due to faults in the cache) ... so these will surely be locked to. In addition to this there seems no way to unlock these CPUs, there were many tricks in the past and none of them seem to work.

[Zak33]

The good news is thatAMD UK were interested....

I give them a big thumbs up...they were not told themselves, or if they were, its not politically correct to admit it. They know their market is US.....overclockers, gamers etc....

Big Multi national Corporation DO change things without telling people...even their staff.....anyone in the real world recognises this. Its our job, here at Hexus, to try to help you all find out about it......and any company big enough to ask us for our (my ) sample back to check it out, is on the side of the good guys.

Intel would have laughed......

[daniel_owen_uk]

Hold on hold on hold on, thbredB chips were not unlocked, if you remember not all boards unlock the multipliers, so surely its motherboard manufacturers that have unlocked the chips not AMD, isn't this latest incarnation just a change in the way AMD locks their chips (and thus the motherboards no longer work)?

[Zak33]

Originally posted by daniel_owen_uk
isn't this latest incarnation just a change in the way AMD locks their chips (and thus the motherboards no longer work)?

nope.....the bartons were not locked to start with......agreed only SOME mobos used that to their benefit, but they didnt UNLOCK them..they simply adjusted them.

[Austin]

Yup as said all std Athlons were locked but easily unlocked via a pencil. The first AthlonXP (Pally) were always locked and a total pig to unlock. The TbredA were usually locked but much easier to unlock and some mobos could adjust the multipliers regardless. ALL TbredB and Barton were always unlocked so all you need was a mobo that could adjust the multiplier, it used to be a std feature but some mobos omitted it (maybe because Pally were very locked). You also got another complication in that even with an unlocked CPU some mobos would have trouble IF the stock multiplier was 13x or higher (XP2100+, XP2200+, XP2400+ etc). This was because the CPUs 13x and up used 5 FID bits to set the multiplier and most mobos could only understand/manipulate 4. You could get around this by modding the L3 bridge (connect the last : with a 'U' of defogger etc) which would drop the CPU down into the normal 5.5X-12.5X range where any mobo with mult adj could alter it.

[madwelshboy]

Yes but imho Micro$oft dont know their elbow from their arse.......

(OOPS sorry, replying to a post on the 1st page, didnt see page 2, wont make much sense here )

[Austin]

Originally posted by madwelshboy
Yes but imho Micro$oft dont know their elbow from their arse.......

(OOPS sorry, replying to a post on the 1st page, didnt see page 2, wont make much sense here )

That comment always makes sense ... unlike M$!

Oh here's the quote:

Originally posted by Agent
Wouldnt supprise me - MS used to run linux servers for their sites

[Swafe]

edit : question already answered :shifty:

how come its locked then ?? is it old ? or have u bought it recently

[Agent]

Originally posted by Swafeman
why do they want your barton? did i miss something? is it an uber clocking one ?

Try reading the thread ?