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    System around £400. Should I go C2D?

    I'm building a budgetish system for a friend.
    Around £400 for the base unit

    He has no need for decent graphics, but would rather have fast CPU / RAM for multitasking in general windows stuff. MP3 / possibly DVD ripping, etc.

    Question is, at around that price point, you can just about get a C2D, however, I think I'd have to limit myself to 1GB RAM. And if I go for 1GB RAM, should I get it in a single stick with a vue to upgrade when another £70-80 allows or should I get two matched 512MB sticks.

    Are there compatibility / stability / speed issues (1T?) if running with 4 sticks on a C2D system?

    I know A64 benefit a bit from dual channel RAM, but I'm at a lost with C2D systems.

    Specs so far are, using Scan to price it up:

    Antec NSK6500 ATX super midi with 430W £74
    Asus P5B iG965 mobo (uATX, onboard VGA) £83
    Intel C2D E6300 £117
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    250GB Samsung SP2504C spinpoint drive £49
    Sony AW-G170AB2 Black DVD+-RW £20

    The other possibility is scrapping completely the C2D system and either go for an A64 or something else to save on mobo/cpu combo and have more money elsewhere.


    Any suggestions? Anything I should really change?

    Cheers

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    Will you friend be overclocking? Does this price include an OS (XP/Vista), Monitor/Mouse Keyboard etc.?

    If 400 doesnt include these then a C2D system would be the way to go.

    A place to start, maybe:
    Last edited by starbuck_; 14-12-2006 at 11:16 AM.

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    No overclocking in mind.

    OS and everything doesn't need to be in the £400, he's already bought an OEM copy of XP on his previous build and this box is replacing his older 2yr old PC.

    I think I'll go for the A64 one as he'd like to add a second optical drive for direct CD copying and a card reader. It's only £20 but it eats into the budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfboy View Post
    I'm building a budgetish system for a friend.
    Around £400 for the base unit

    He has no need for decent graphics, but would rather have fast CPU / RAM for multitasking in general windows stuff. MP3 / possibly DVD ripping, etc.

    Question is, at around that price point, you can just about get a C2D, however, I think I'd have to limit myself to 1GB RAM. And if I go for 1GB RAM, should I get it in a single stick with a vue to upgrade when another £70-80 allows or should I get two matched 512MB sticks.

    Are there compatibility / stability / speed issues (1T?) if running with 4 sticks on a C2D system?

    I know A64 benefit a bit from dual channel RAM, but I'm at a lost with C2D systems.

    Specs so far are, using Scan to price it up:

    Antec NSK6500 ATX super midi with 430W £74
    Asus P5B iG965 mobo (uATX, onboard VGA) £83
    Intel C2D E6300 £117
    .
    .
    .
    250GB Samsung SP2504C spinpoint drive £49
    Sony AW-G170AB2 Black DVD+-RW £20

    The other possibility is scrapping completely the C2D system and either go for an A64 or something else to save on mobo/cpu combo and have more money elsewhere.


    Any suggestions? Anything I should really change?

    Cheers

    Well if it's going to be a basic E6300 computer with no over clocking, why bother building one, you can get for example a Mesh elite E6300 gs with monitor and windows Xp and all goodies for £599, and without monitor £467......... all with a 3 year basic warranty. Of course extra is the delivery charge but then think of the time you will spend getting the parts and building the computer.

    http://www.meshcomputers.com/Default...UCT&KEY=116787

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    Ah thanks for that.

    I've swapped the Antec case for the 4400 as it saves a few quid and he doesn't need firewire or audio at the front...

    I suppose I could overclock slightly

    I hadn't noticed that bundled 6300 + 512MB RAM + 200GB Maxtor drive offer. Sounds like a plan, but I'm not sure if I can convince myself to buy a Maxtor drive after I had constant failed drives (admittedly the diamondmax 9 series).

    Forgive my ignorance, but if I wanted to slightly overclock a C2D system, can I still have memory dividers so RAM can stay at normal speeds whilst I increase the FSB / HTT / whatever-Intel-call-it-nowadays ?

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    Yep.

    Consider the asrock conroe motherboards as well to save a bit more money, perhaps to be put towards more ram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Yep.

    Consider the asrock conroe motherboards as well to save a bit more money, perhaps to be put towards more ram.
    Hmm. the only decentish Asrock board is on the i945 chipset. Whilst the Asrock CONROE945G-DVI gives dual head support, the PCIe is 4 lanes only so if ever he did want to upgrade to a dedicated GPU, it's probably not a good solution. I'll continue searching for a few more reviews (found one so far). If I were to go conroe to be able to o/c a bit, I'd better make sure the board offers some useful tweakability

    The firewire also goes, although he doesn't have any immediate use and you can always throw in a PCI firewire card later

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfboy View Post
    Hmm. the only decentish Asrock board is on the i945 chipset. Whilst the Asrock CONROE945G-DVI gives dual head support, the PCIe is 4 lanes only so if ever he did want to upgrade to a dedicated GPU, it's probably not a good solution.
    You must be thinking of a different model. That one is full 16x speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    You must be thinking of a different model. That one is full 16x speed.
    I mis-read the info. The slot is full 16x speed, but the DVI card that plugs into it is only 4x.

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