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    power supply failure rates satistics

    according to be hardware these are the power supply failure statistics for the previous year.like all statistics they should be taken with a pinch of salt. they confirm though what most hexites knew already

    http://www.behardware.com/news/8550/...lure-rate.html
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    Damn, I wanted to see the likes of Q-tec or EZcool and see how bad their failure rates were. Hiper psu's doing surprisingly well being better than tagan and enermax by a significant margin.

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    Main problem with the stats is the fact that a lot of people don't report their failed PSUs as they just go out and buy a new one, this means it wont be recorded so tha actual stats could be wildly different.

    Nice to see that the Hiper Type R 580W is the least reliable...and it's what's in my system

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    *covers his Antec-based PSU's ears* Shhh.. don't you listen to them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alsenior View Post
    according to be hardware these are the power supply failure statistics for the previous year.like all statistics they should be taken with a pinch of salt. they confirm though what most hexites knew already

    http://www.behardware.com/news/8550/...lure-rate.html

    Believe that and you believe anything!

    OCZ isnt even there and they have a big market share coupled with their fair share of problems.

    Enermax vs Tagan for example.
    There may be a 1% odd increase in returns but Enermax prolly sell 30% more units than Tagan so in hard figures they would be worse.

    Antec - Highest returns rate but i would say they put more units onto the market than any other company there so figures once again manipulated.

    Hipers - To say they are more reliable than Enermax/Antec is a complete joke that we all know to be total rubbish!

    Nice find but the real picture definitely isnt painted by it.
    Unfortunately though, the sad thing about this post is that people who know very little about PSUs will go out and buy the ones in the lowest % range and believe incorrectly that they are buying a better unit. eg). To buy a Hiper over an Enermax or Antec is ridiculous (unless you solely are after bling).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    Unfortunately though, the sad thing about this post is that people who know very little about PSUs will go out and buy the ones in the lowest % range and believe incorrectly that they are buying a better unit. eg).
    Do you seriously think that people who know very little about PSUs are the kinds of people who read those articles or indeed this forum?

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    I agree Blitzen. Those stats really arent worth reading or making public. The percentages arent weighted against market share and as said above, most people never report a failure - i never have.

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    That is why i said they should be taken with a pinch of salt. i did gcse statistics and it is very easy to see that statistics could mean anything.

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    I have to agree with Blitzen. Having owned Tagan, Enermax, FSP in the past year, (and I have pointed this out many times), I find it impossible to see how the FSP returns rate is so low in comparison to others. On the two FSP units that I owned, they both suffered from overall poor quality build, flimsy connectors, poor quality noisy fans and faulty fan controllers. Both units were bought from different retailers at different times and both ened up with similar faults within a couple of weeks.

    Similar story with Tagan, although, add into the equation, some seriously cheap and nasty sata-molex connectors that caused short circuits, these were replaced by Nanopoint/Tagan, only to have the exact same fault. I took one of these adapters apart to see what was going on, and several of them had been made without any kind of insulation between the layers of metal, and thats why they were shorting. The fans / controllers also went faulty on the Tagans as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Do you seriously think that people who know very little about PSUs are the kinds of people who read those articles or indeed this forum?

    I do as it happens.
    A forum is a good place to learn and get advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by alsenior View Post
    That is why i said they should be taken with a pinch of salt. i did gcse statistics and it is very easy to see that statistics could mean anything.

    remember:
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    Had no idea Statistics was a GCSE subject tbh

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    Had no idea Statistics was a GCSE subject tbh
    I did that for a GCSE 10 years ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
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    Enermax vs Tagan for example.
    There may be a 1% odd increase in returns but Enermax prolly sell 30% more units than Tagan so in hard figures they would be worse.

    Antec - Highest returns rate but i would say they put more units onto the market than any other company there so figures once again manipulated.

    Hipers - To say they are more reliable than Enermax/Antec is a complete joke that we all know to be total rubbish!
    It doesn't matter about who sells more overall as the statistics are for "the failure rate of power supplies recorded by a major French e-commerce." in terms of % failures/units sold.
    There is absolutely no doubt though that there has been a horrendous no. of Antecs (largely SmartPowers) failing over the last year - you can see it on pretty much any forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    Hipers - To say they are more reliable than Enermax/Antec is a complete joke that we all know to be total rubbish!
    Just picking this bit out to prove a point.....

    In the last 5 years, I have seen 3 Enermax PSUs die. No other brands AT ALL and I have used/installed a number of Hiper, Antec and Tagan PSUs.

    To me, it would seem that Enermax is the worst of the bunch. So, no I cannot agree that Hiper being more reliable then Enermax is "total rubbish".

    Of course, if your one of the unlucky x% of failures, then you will get a slanted view.....and this is what makes people state that "brand X is rubbish"....stupidly small samplings of data do that

    It would be very interesting if each manufacturer released the figures of what they genuinely think is their failure rate based on returns. That's never going to happen though
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    Like said, a little misleading. Antec have a huge market share and are going to have a higher failure rate. Saying that, there PSu's these days, aren't as good as they were a few years back.

    Basically buy yourself a Silverstone, Zippy, PCP&Cooling or Seasonic M-12, and you'll be fine with any PC.

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    It doesn't matter how many unit's are sold, it's a percentage.

    A good reputation doesn't stop your PSU frying either. My Last Enermax was DOA(incidentally the same one the site lists as having the highest Enermax failure rate), my Hiper hasn't flinched.

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