Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 17

Thread: power supply failure rates satistics

  1. #1
    Fried Chip Extremist alsenior's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Stafford
    Posts
    2,949
    Thanks
    103
    Thanked
    191 times in 145 posts
    • alsenior's system
      • Motherboard:
      • DFI Lanparty Jr x58-T3H6
      • CPU:
      • Core i7 920
      • Memory:
      • 6 x 2GB ocz Gold
      • Storage:
      • 1 TB Samsung F3
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 1gb 4890 vapor-x xfire
      • PSU:
      • xfx 850W
      • Case:
      • Lian-li Pc7
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 X64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2208WFP
      • Internet:
      • 30mb Virgin media

    power supply failure rates satistics

    according to be hardware these are the power supply failure statistics for the previous year.like all statistics they should be taken with a pinch of salt. they confirm though what most hexites knew already

    http://www.behardware.com/news/8550/...lure-rate.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    What kind of emergency would need Windows 95? I think you are already in a bad state of emergency when your backup plan is Windows 95.
    Beginners guide to raid Beginners guide to raid post edition Hexus.Social - FAQ

  2. #2
    SeƱor Member Flewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Sutton, Surrey
    Posts
    765
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked
    27 times in 24 posts
    • Flewis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI P45 Platinum
      • CPU:
      • Intel E7200 @ 3.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 4x1GB Corsair PC5400 @ 720MHz 4-4-4-11
      • Storage:
      • 2 x Samsung Spinpoint 500GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 2 x ATI HD4850
      • PSU:
      • 750W Silverstone Zeus
      • Case:
      • AOpen H700B custom watercooled
      • Operating System:
      • Vista HP x64
      • Internet:
      • Plusnet fibre
    Damn, I wanted to see the likes of Q-tec or EZcool and see how bad their failure rates were. Hiper psu's doing surprisingly well being better than tagan and enermax by a significant margin.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    229
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    • FInalD's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M2N32-SLi Deluxe
      • CPU:
      • AMD AM2 4600+ 2.0GHz
      • Memory:
      • Corsair XMS2 2GB Matched Pair
      • Storage:
      • 3x Seagate Baracuda 7200.10 320GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • PowerColor X1950 XT
      • PSU:
      • Hiper 580 Type-R
      • Case:
      • LianLi PC7 Plus II
      • Monitor(s):
      • ViewSonic VX922
      • Internet:
      • 2.2MB DSL
    Main problem with the stats is the fact that a lot of people don't report their failed PSUs as they just go out and buy a new one, this means it wont be recorded so tha actual stats could be wildly different.

    Nice to see that the Hiper Type R 580W is the least reliable...and it's what's in my system

    FinalD

  4. #4
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    31,039
    Thanks
    1,880
    Thanked
    3,379 times in 2,716 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
      • CPU:
      • Intel i9 9900k
      • Memory:
      • 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 970Evo+ NVMe
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2721DGF
      • Internet:
      • rubbish
    *covers his Antec-based PSU's ears* Shhh.. don't you listen to them...

  5. #5
    Lover & Fighter Blitzen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Between Your Mum & Sister
    Posts
    6,310
    Thanks
    538
    Thanked
    382 times in 300 posts
    • Blitzen's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ABIT iX38 QuadGT
      • CPU:
      • Intel Quad Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz : 30 Degrees Idle - 41-46 Degrees Load
      • Memory:
      • 4 x 1GB OCZ Platinum PC6400 @ 4-4-4-12
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500GB Samsung Spinpoints - RAID 0
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GTX 285
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU 82+ 625W
      • Case:
      • Antec Nine Hundred
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic Q22wb 22" Widescreen - 5ms
      • Internet:
      • O2 premium @ 17mb
    Quote Originally Posted by alsenior View Post
    according to be hardware these are the power supply failure statistics for the previous year.like all statistics they should be taken with a pinch of salt. they confirm though what most hexites knew already

    http://www.behardware.com/news/8550/...lure-rate.html

    Believe that and you believe anything!

    OCZ isnt even there and they have a big market share coupled with their fair share of problems.

    Enermax vs Tagan for example.
    There may be a 1% odd increase in returns but Enermax prolly sell 30% more units than Tagan so in hard figures they would be worse.

    Antec - Highest returns rate but i would say they put more units onto the market than any other company there so figures once again manipulated.

    Hipers - To say they are more reliable than Enermax/Antec is a complete joke that we all know to be total rubbish!

    Nice find but the real picture definitely isnt painted by it.
    Unfortunately though, the sad thing about this post is that people who know very little about PSUs will go out and buy the ones in the lowest % range and believe incorrectly that they are buying a better unit. eg). To buy a Hiper over an Enermax or Antec is ridiculous (unless you solely are after bling).
    Last edited by Blitzen; 23-01-2007 at 11:00 AM.

  6. #6
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    31,039
    Thanks
    1,880
    Thanked
    3,379 times in 2,716 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
      • CPU:
      • Intel i9 9900k
      • Memory:
      • 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 970Evo+ NVMe
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2721DGF
      • Internet:
      • rubbish
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    Unfortunately though, the sad thing about this post is that people who know very little about PSUs will go out and buy the ones in the lowest % range and believe incorrectly that they are buying a better unit. eg).
    Do you seriously think that people who know very little about PSUs are the kinds of people who read those articles or indeed this forum?

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    2,599
    Thanks
    80
    Thanked
    106 times in 94 posts
    I agree Blitzen. Those stats really arent worth reading or making public. The percentages arent weighted against market share and as said above, most people never report a failure - i never have.

  8. #8
    Fried Chip Extremist alsenior's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Stafford
    Posts
    2,949
    Thanks
    103
    Thanked
    191 times in 145 posts
    • alsenior's system
      • Motherboard:
      • DFI Lanparty Jr x58-T3H6
      • CPU:
      • Core i7 920
      • Memory:
      • 6 x 2GB ocz Gold
      • Storage:
      • 1 TB Samsung F3
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 1gb 4890 vapor-x xfire
      • PSU:
      • xfx 850W
      • Case:
      • Lian-li Pc7
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 X64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2208WFP
      • Internet:
      • 30mb Virgin media
    That is why i said they should be taken with a pinch of salt. i did gcse statistics and it is very easy to see that statistics could mean anything.

    remember:
    there are lies ,damn lies and statistics
    Last edited by alsenior; 23-01-2007 at 12:00 PM. Reason: didn't pass gcse English though
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    What kind of emergency would need Windows 95? I think you are already in a bad state of emergency when your backup plan is Windows 95.
    Beginners guide to raid Beginners guide to raid post edition Hexus.Social - FAQ

  9. #9
    Flat cap, Whippets, Cave. Clunk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    11,056
    Thanks
    360
    Thanked
    725 times in 459 posts
    I have to agree with Blitzen. Having owned Tagan, Enermax, FSP in the past year, (and I have pointed this out many times), I find it impossible to see how the FSP returns rate is so low in comparison to others. On the two FSP units that I owned, they both suffered from overall poor quality build, flimsy connectors, poor quality noisy fans and faulty fan controllers. Both units were bought from different retailers at different times and both ened up with similar faults within a couple of weeks.

    Similar story with Tagan, although, add into the equation, some seriously cheap and nasty sata-molex connectors that caused short circuits, these were replaced by Nanopoint/Tagan, only to have the exact same fault. I took one of these adapters apart to see what was going on, and several of them had been made without any kind of insulation between the layers of metal, and thats why they were shorting. The fans / controllers also went faulty on the Tagans as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    stupid betond belief.
    You owe it to yourself to click here really.

  10. #10
    Lover & Fighter Blitzen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Between Your Mum & Sister
    Posts
    6,310
    Thanks
    538
    Thanked
    382 times in 300 posts
    • Blitzen's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ABIT iX38 QuadGT
      • CPU:
      • Intel Quad Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz : 30 Degrees Idle - 41-46 Degrees Load
      • Memory:
      • 4 x 1GB OCZ Platinum PC6400 @ 4-4-4-12
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500GB Samsung Spinpoints - RAID 0
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GTX 285
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU 82+ 625W
      • Case:
      • Antec Nine Hundred
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic Q22wb 22" Widescreen - 5ms
      • Internet:
      • O2 premium @ 17mb
    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Do you seriously think that people who know very little about PSUs are the kinds of people who read those articles or indeed this forum?

    I do as it happens.
    A forum is a good place to learn and get advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by alsenior View Post
    That is why i said they should be taken with a pinch of salt. i did gcse statistics and it is very easy to see that statistics could mean anything.

    remember:
    there are lies ,damn lies and statistics
    Had no idea Statistics was a GCSE subject tbh

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    4,944
    Thanks
    171
    Thanked
    387 times in 314 posts
    • badass's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS P8Z77-m pro
      • CPU:
      • Core i5 3570K
      • Memory:
      • 32GB
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 850 EVO, 2TB WD Green
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon RX 580
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone SG02-F
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 X64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Del U2311, LG226WTQ
      • Internet:
      • 80/20 FTTC
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    Had no idea Statistics was a GCSE subject tbh
    I did that for a GCSE 10 years ago!
    (A Grade aswell)
    "In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship."

  12. #12
    Resident abit mourner BUFF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Sunny Glasgow
    Posts
    8,067
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked
    181 times in 171 posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    [B][U]

    Enermax vs Tagan for example.
    There may be a 1% odd increase in returns but Enermax prolly sell 30% more units than Tagan so in hard figures they would be worse.

    Antec - Highest returns rate but i would say they put more units onto the market than any other company there so figures once again manipulated.

    Hipers - To say they are more reliable than Enermax/Antec is a complete joke that we all know to be total rubbish!
    It doesn't matter about who sells more overall as the statistics are for "the failure rate of power supplies recorded by a major French e-commerce." in terms of % failures/units sold.
    There is absolutely no doubt though that there has been a horrendous no. of Antecs (largely SmartPowers) failing over the last year - you can see it on pretty much any forum.

    MSI P55-GD80, i5 750
    abit A-S78H, Phenom 9750,

    My HEXUS.trust abit forums

  13. #13
    Anthropomorphic Personification shaithis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Last Aerie
    Posts
    10,857
    Thanks
    645
    Thanked
    872 times in 736 posts
    • shaithis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77 WS
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB HyperX 1866
      • Storage:
      • Lots!
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T (White)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell 3007
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb Fibre
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    Hipers - To say they are more reliable than Enermax/Antec is a complete joke that we all know to be total rubbish!
    Just picking this bit out to prove a point.....

    In the last 5 years, I have seen 3 Enermax PSUs die. No other brands AT ALL and I have used/installed a number of Hiper, Antec and Tagan PSUs.

    To me, it would seem that Enermax is the worst of the bunch. So, no I cannot agree that Hiper being more reliable then Enermax is "total rubbish".

    Of course, if your one of the unlucky x% of failures, then you will get a slanted view.....and this is what makes people state that "brand X is rubbish"....stupidly small samplings of data do that

    It would be very interesting if each manufacturer released the figures of what they genuinely think is their failure rate based on returns. That's never going to happen though
    Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
    HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
    HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
    Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
    NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
    Laptop: Dell Precision 5510 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: Huawei P30 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM14 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    108
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post
    • Reapsy's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus PB5-E
      • CPU:
      • Core 2 Duo E8600
      • Memory:
      • 2048MB Corsair DDR2 5400
      • Storage:
      • 150GB Raptor, 750 GB WD, 80GB Maxtor
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 8800GTX
      • PSU:
      • PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad
      • Case:
      • A big black one
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" HP LP2475w
      • Internet:
      • 56kbps ADSL
    My old man's 2 year old smartpower went pop last month.

  15. #15
    Banned Smokey21's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Stafford, Midlands
    Posts
    1,752
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Like said, a little misleading. Antec have a huge market share and are going to have a higher failure rate. Saying that, there PSu's these days, aren't as good as they were a few years back.

    Basically buy yourself a Silverstone, Zippy, PCP&Cooling or Seasonic M-12, and you'll be fine with any PC.

  16. #16
    Moderator chuckskull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    The Frozen North
    Posts
    7,713
    Thanks
    950
    Thanked
    690 times in 463 posts
    • chuckskull's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z77-D3H
      • CPU:
      • 3570k @ 4.7 - H100i
      • Memory:
      • 32GB XMS3 1600mhz
      • Storage:
      • 256GB Samsung 850 Pro + 3TB Seagate
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GTX 980Ti Classified
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic M12 700W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 500R
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus VG278HE
      • Internet:
      • FTTC
    It doesn't matter how many unit's are sold, it's a percentage.

    A good reputation doesn't stop your PSU frying either. My Last Enermax was DOA(incidentally the same one the site lists as having the highest Enermax failure rate), my Hiper hasn't flinched.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 23
    Last Post: 18-06-2007, 08:31 AM
  2. Power Supply problem?
    By Byatt in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 20-01-2006, 09:54 PM
  3. Graphics Card For 250w Power Supply?
    By MUTTLEY in forum Graphics Cards
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 25-04-2005, 07:07 PM
  4. I want a Well 'Ard Power supply!
    By prehensile in forum Retail Therapy and Bargains
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 19-09-2003, 04:21 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •