Lomac Demo Is Out

[Lowe]

Show me that it's not. Same interface, same "look" etc.

[Cesium]

ok its got a few similarities - but come on, their both modern fighter jet sims, u bound 2 see sum.
As 4 the interface, well i dnt really remember it that well.
And as 4 the way it plays i didnt c hardly ne simlarities.
And if there is ne, well the 2 jets mig-29 (i presume thats what u were taling about) and su-33 are very similar.
If you just look at them they almost look the same.

[Lowe]

I think you're missing the point. It's the SAME engine, just updated a smidge with fancy graphics!

After all this time I was expecting something a bit new. Fair enough it's got a few new planes and some fancy graphical effects, but from what I can see already it's an old game.

Like I say unless there's a MAJOR improvement I won't be spending my hard earned on a rehash.

[Stoo]

I have to say, I'm not overly impressed by this either..

*sigh* Back to the drawing board for my fast jet action then..

[Skii]

Lowe m8

Hows the flight model ? aside from the graphics.

[Lowe]

Flight model is pretty good, but then the Flanker 2.0 model was second to none when thinking of jet sims.

Personally I thought the A10 had an AoA limiter on it like all US planes, to stop you doing something daft but that could be me. Russian planes tend not to have limiters, or they are certainly able to toggle them on and off, hence why the Flanker can pull the Cobra manuever off.

Other then that I can't really say mate since I can only play it for 2 minutes before the game locks and I have to reboot. Not really enough time to really put a plane through its paces.

[Capt Doufos]

P4 2.4C @ 3Ghz
1GB RAM
9700 running Omega 3.7 Drivers clocked past 9700 Pro Speeds
Details at max (1024x768)
Anistropic filtering on.

It's flawless.

Very faint engine sound in the cockpit... Never been in a Modern jet... Maybe they are soundproofed.. Maybe you don't actually hear much?

[Skii]

Originally posted by Capt Doufos
P4 2.4C @ 3Ghz
1GB RAM
9700 running Omega 3.7 Drivers clocked past 9700 Pro Speeds
Details at max (1024x768)
Anistropic filtering on.

It's flawless.

Very faint engine sound in the cockpit... Never been in a Modern jet... Maybe they are soundproofed.. Maybe you don't actually hear much?

If I put everything at medium, it runs ok, but I've only got a GF4 here.

Modern jets are very quiet inside the cockpit - you are sitting a fair distance from the engines, inside an insulated skull cap and helmet, within a soundproofed cockpit. After you land - hit CNTRL - C to open the canopy - it gets a lot louder then

[Tumble]

only after you land? why not when you're flying..... I can in me Hurricane....

[Zak33]

*waits with baited breath for final say from Lowe and Skii*

Is it worth playing/ losing my life too ?

[Lowe]

In my opinion, at the moment, no. Left me wanting.. maybe I need a bigger spec machine to really enjoy it a bit more. Who knows, till we see the full version we won't know.

[Skii]

I can see where Lowe is coming from - I really can.

The first problem is very apparent - the horsepower needed to run it - it really is designed for the next generation PC - it will be lovely on a P5 and Geforce 5 / Radeon 10,000, but we aren't there yet - and herein lies the problem.

Ubi designed LOMAC to appeal to the mass market, so it can be tailored to the hard core simmer, or to the CS junkie who wants to try his hand at a combat flight sim, problem is the mass market doesn't own a machine fast enough to get anywhere near the quality of videos and screenshots we have been treated to in the run up to the release of LOMAC.

The demo doesn't work very well, many people can't actually get it to run, let alone get good frame rates. all this aside we have a game that essentially looks like an updated Flanker 2.0 - in fact they've nicked most of the code by the looks of things.

OK - I wiil buy it the first chance I get, why ? because planes are my thang, and any sim that gives me the opportunity to fly an F15 at Mach2 above a glorious cloudbase, is worth the money 5 times over. There are things i love about the demo, things that need to improve (and I believe they are) - don't forget this is an early beta-demo that wasn't actually supposed to be released yet.

A tentative thumbs up

[[GSV]Trig]

Its more a sim than a game tbh so I prolly wont bother with it..

[Dakaras]

Must admit i need to be convinced, Id love a combat jet sim but at the minute it doesnt grab me, maybe Ive been spolit by IL2 then FB

[Lowe]

The beauty is with a prop sim is that you can pick up and play within 5 mins. Ok, you might not get off the ground and when you do you crash, but that's half the appeal.

With a jet sim, getting into the air isn't difficult, nor is staying there. The difficulty factor comes from understanding the avionics and being able to put them to their best. It's rare that you actually get into a furball at all, since most of the combat is BVR and even then, close range is a couple of miles away!

When I flew for the 185th in Falcon 4.0 we used to actually have training nights where we'd sit and study online together in ICQ chatrooms testing one another on A2G bombing, radio calls etc so make the whole team experience well.. precise just like the real thing. We'd have an hours briefing before embarking on a mission, during which everything was planned down to minute detail. The sim demanded that sort of preparation if the squad of 4 were to come back in one piece.

Why am I telling you this? Because when played properly LOMAC will require that kind of dedication to get the best from it.

[Capt Doufos]

On the topic of Falcon 4.0, if anyone has that it has been majorly overhauled.

Install Falcon 4
Install 1.08 patch
Install SuperPak 3
Install FreeFalcon 2

The Models have been improved, max res is now 1600x1200. Texture sizes are up to 512k. For how old the game is it looks really great. Well worth playing as a stop gap.

Understanding Avionics is a pain. I used to like EF2000 as it was dumed down a bit, but not too much. Shame DID went up the swanny. Eurofighter Typhoon was a big dissapointment.. Far too arcadey.

However.. Inflight Refuelling and Carrier landings are ace

What we could do with is an IL2 Engine game set it the Pacific Theatre. That would be good.