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You can opt out of the SERPS part of National Insurance
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The way I see it is, if I pop my clogs, then why not donate my organs to someone who may have life still in them and my organs can aid them to live a normal life. Let's face it, when you are dead you are not going to miss your organs are you.
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The idea itself is sound if youre dead what does it matter (echoing above ) but its the abuse of patient rights that gets most people going, until the Medical Council is disolved and replced with an independent body Id be highly sceptical of hospitals following the rules anyway let alone sticking to the limits of organ removal as proposed here.
Look at the distress caused to those parents (in the news a while ago think it was a hospital in Wales?) when they found that the coffins of their children were mostly empty as most of the body had been either removed at the hospital without consent or had been "incinerated" (quite literally) as "medical waste". Im not making light of this it would have driven me insane to know that...really.
The distress of organ removal isnt for the person whos dead its for their relatives that are still alive.
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TBH, I think its purely selfish not to allow your organs to be used after your death, for any reason at all, pure selfishness. The fact is, if you dont opt in (or if you opt out, as the case may soon be) then you are denying the use of your organs to somebody who probably really NEEDS them, I dont care what anybody belives in, you do not need your organs after your dead, simple as that.
Im in favor of an opt-out system tbh, I think its criminal to allow this kind of waste. Also in the case of the babies that had organs removed, I can understand where the parents are coming from but they are not looking at the issue from a decent perspective, harvesting those organs helps to train doctors and continue research, ultimately saving lives. Quite frankly I cant help thinking that some of the parents have got pound signs in their eyes, why would anybody sue the NHS? even if they botched an operation on me and left me in great pain I dont think I would make a claim. Lets face it they do thier best and they cant get it right every time.
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The idea of organ donation is a great idea i think i have been a organ donar since the age or 16 and alwaysed carried some card telling people that if i die they can have my organs.
Just think if you die your organs could save somebody else's life, maybe even a member of your family's
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I think it should be an opt in service as its taken liberties to assume someone automatically wants to donate.
Although thanks for the link I am now signed up, truely a worthy link.
A person need not be selfish to not want their organs being used for transplants.
For my part I don't want any parts of me left around - if it was possible I'd like to be reduced back to my component atoms !!
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Why should people be allowed to opt out? really I dont see the point. You dont need them when your dead. Your relatives dont need them when your dead (well unless you dontate them to them...).
why do you care if theres nothing left in your coffin?
Whats greater, the distress caused to the relatives, or the distress to those that
NEED the organs.
I seriously think people should not have the right to opt out when they die.
I havent registered or have a card yet, but Ill make sure I get one before I die.
There should be a Ad campaingn like with the antismoking ones on tv, about organ donation.
Anyone who believes in the state being accountable and in people having freedom of choice should support an Opt-In only system, no matter how selfish it seems to want to keep your organs they are yours and tbh an opt out only system is assuming far too much. Whoever thinks that they owe the NHS something is severely misguided, no matter WHAT they have done for you that is what they are there for in a social democracy, some of you make it sound as if the fact that they have treated you indebts you to them in some way, GET REAL you are not living in China where people are executed with organs harvesting in mind.
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I really agree with you, though I don't know if I'm registered anywhere..but I'm gonna make sure I am. And I'm definitely going to donate my organs after my death too, I do not believe I need them by then.Originally Posted by richman
I think it's so very important because my sister died in cancer! and she survived an extra year because she got another dead mans liver. Actually the liver transplantion that was made on her was the first ever made in Sweden..
And it was a sucess, but then her cancer started to spread to other organs and the skeleton..which made it impossible to save her at least she survived a year because someone donated his organ.
Well, this happened like 18 years ago..so I guess the knowledge/resarch of cancer has developed since..
But donate organ, it saves lifes!
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Blub, I feel I have to point out that organ donation is not about helping the NHS, its simply about helping people that dont wish to die just yet. It must be frustrating for doctors to see patients who die with perfectly good organs get cremated with them just for quite frankly ludicrus unfounded beliefs.
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People have the right to choose what happens to their bodies though dont you think? If we have to consent to treatment whilst alive, why should that stop once were dead?Originally Posted by G4Z
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well, mainly because your dead tbh.
Also I would contest that people own their bodies, in reality its just a collection of atoms that form its compnent parts, once your dead it will just decompose, Its just scrap once your dead, we recycle car parts and computer components, why not bodies?
I dont see why people should be allowed to end a life by proxy just by deciding they dont want their body to be cut to bits, Its just gonna rot anyway.
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And i agree with you, im a nurse my job is to save peoples lifes.... to do that you need organs! but at the same time, people should be allowed to choose what happens to their bodies and have the right to say as they wishOriginally Posted by G4Z
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I have to agree with Lynni and G4Z, I mean I really think that you should donate your organs! Which you could see if you read my post above..but I do think that people have to decied on their own what they think about it. You can't force people to do a thing like that.
But I wish that..in someway, that people could do that :/
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but this opt out scheme DOES still give you the option to keep your organs its not saying you have to donate...
this way it would stop people not donating just because its too much hassle. imho it is wrong to force a person to give up their organs after death but that isnt what this proposal is about.
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