Has George W Bush won then?

[Zak33]

Just wondered...has he won this time? Officially and properly? Has he actually had more votes this time than the opposition? It would be a first wouldn't it?

Cos he didn't win last time. His Dad scared the other kids in the Play Ground away....

[GreenPiggy]

yep. Kerry's concession speech is at 6pm our time.
so depressed right now

[Jonny M]

Why would Kerry admit defeat before the votes have all been counted?

[Galant]

Because even with all the possible remaining votes in his favour he still couldn't win.

[Jonny M]

Oh, I was just going by the BBC map thing which has had a difference of 2 colleges since about 12 this afternoon.

[Spud1]

Yes he has officially won

Kerry conceded after bush won ohio

;/

[Zak33]

Caged....lets not pretend...

If Mr Bush Snr wants his son in power...which he does...he'll simply threaten to Sue Everyone if Kerry asks for a recount....

he did it last time.

Go to -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ml/default.stm

its a good map....at the top is a Tab for Past Elections....hit it.

It has a slider bar along the bottom...allowing you to see previous Results.

Look at 2000.

Bush Popular Votes: 50,456,002
Al Gore Popular Votes: 50,999,897

Winner...BUSH!

He's been in power for 4 years....and he lost.

Sort it out in your head....I can't...and nor can www.michaelmoore.com

[Zak33]

Mr Bush has a few special tricks up his sleeve. If you are a "felon" you can't vote.

Mr Bush has a Drink Driving Conviction...and his wife attempted to "smuggle" $19,000 or jewelry into the country without paying tax. Mr Bush had a "coke habit" which involves possession....but he's ok to be the President.

[Zak33]

I'm getting angry now...I might not get anymore involved in this one.

If anyone cares....

read

"Stupid White Men" by Michael Moore. I am half way through. My mind...a thing already boggled ...is further boggled

Either way.....be afraid. George W Bush can only be in power this one last time. He cant run three times....so whatever he does now....he wont have to tidy up next time

be afraid....be very afraid.

Iran next I think

[Galant]

Oh please. Bush won fair and square. You think the Dem's wouldn't contest it?

All that talk about Florida last election. Well the Floridians had a chance to reclaim their vote and look - they voted Bush.

Can't sort it out? The American people just voted for Bush. They wanted him. Bottom line.

Please quit with the whining.

[Apex]

R.I.P freedom

you will be missed.

[GreenPiggy]

irrittingly enough he did win fair and square.
Zak, if you want to get really angry read "the best democracy money can buy" by Greg Palast.

[nichomach]

The popular vote and electoral college vote has gone with Bush. He's won on both counts; I might wish this weren't so, but there it is. Just so's we're clear on this, it is ALSO perfectly possible for someone to lose the popular vote and win the election here in the UK, it just doesn't happen very often. It's happened twice post-war; in 1951 when Labour polled more votes but ended up with 26 fewer seats than the Tories, and in February 1974 when the Tories polled higher but ended up with 4 fewer seats. It happens.

However, the fact that it happens doesn't mean that people are debarred from saying that they are unhappy about or worried by the result. So Galant? Stop trying to hush people; we don't quite have a Patriot Act over here yet, so we're allowed a little dissent, OK?

[Galant]

I don't mind comment, but I find it annoying when people start tossing around talk of conspiracies and corruption and cheating or whatever.

[myth]

I am pleased bush won! After we get done in Irac we can devote are atention to china...

[[GSV]Trig]

Bush is the WOMD...

If any other country invaded another in the way that he has then the UN or whoever would get involved, America does it and its fine...

BS TBQFH.....