Burglars

[Rave]

I should add that I, and my family, have been victims of crime on numerous occasions. I hate it as much as the next man, and I probably would be inclined to get in a couple of vindictive blows to the face if I caught a burglar in my house.

Instead of getting angry with burglars though, why not point the finger where the blame for all drug related burglary really lies- with the government. Since IIRC 75% of burglaries are drug related (I.E. they are carried out by drug users with habits to pay for), pretty much 75% of them could be prevented if you simply legalised all drugs. When was the last time you heard of someone burgling a house to pay for alcohol? I don't believe I've ever heard of that; with White Lightning at £2 a bottle, pretty much any alky can pay for their fix from their dole money or from a little light begging.

Now having druken/ drug addicted beggars on the streets is not ideal I grant you, but given the option of that or being burgled, I'll take the beggars every time. Better still, get doctors to prescribe drugs to addicts and the problem is pretty much solved entirely.

Write to your MP now.

Rich :¬)

[Stewart]

In any case, old grannies aren't really going to be helped by this new law unless in addition to being old and frail they're also trained martial artists.

Rich :¬)

Point would be that the number of break in's would fall, if the scum doing it knew they could get a good hiding, resulting in less victims, and less old and frail people being done over.

As you say, its more of a claification than a new law, but the more people know where they stand, the better.

[Rave]

Oh yeah? Has anyone ever interrupted a burglar only to have him say "don't hit me mate or I'll sue"? I doubt it.....I think they're expecting trouble if they get caught. What might actually happen if you make it more likely that burglars will get beaten up is that they'll make more effort to target the elderly and infirm, in the knowledge that they're less likely to fight back.

Still, as long as it's not me or my family eh?

Rich :¬)

[paradidle]

I'm not sure if I'd go quite as far as shooting them, one reason being I don't own a firearm. Lol.

But I wouldn't be held responsible for any actions that did arise from a burglar entering my house.

Howard, you are guilty of having common sence and the ability to defend yourself when attacked. These crimes are not to be tolereated under the current government. The victim here(the intruder), has the right to sue your ass if u lay one finger on him/her.

Howard, having all this common sense, being the law abiding citizen that u are, has messed up your head and filled it with fake hopes of living in a country where the law favours one like ur self.

Didnt you know that when an intruder enters ur house, the best way to deal with them is to let them go about their business, then after they leave, ring our trustworthy Police Force whom with deal with it swiftly*.











*Covers 7-8 hours response time, 4-24 weeks analyisis, 2-3 years for your items to be returned.

[Rave]

The victim here(the intruder), has the right to sue your ass if u lay one finger on him/her.

For goodness sake, read my first post. That is just NOT TRUE, it is in fact a LIE, and repeating such an untruth is not helpful at all.

Rich :¬)

[malfunction]

It's also naive to think that either a career criminal or a drug addict desperate for some cash is going to simply decide that enough is enough and 'go straight' just because people make their houses slightly harder to get into.

[petrefax]

Oh yeah? Has anyone ever interrupted a burglar only to have him say "don't hit me mate or I'll sue"? I doubt it.....I think they're expecting trouble if they get caught. What might actually happen if you make it more likely that burglars will get beaten up is that they'll make more effort to target the elderly and infirm, in the knowledge that they're less likely to fight back.

Still, as long as it's not me or my family eh?

Rich :¬)

much though i agree with any law that may assist in allowing me to batter someoen who enters my property (which lets face it i would anyway, hence the aluminium baseball bat in an appropriate location) following on from what rave said i feel i should add the following to the discussion

if an amendment was made to the law regarding defending your property which made it more likely that a burglar caught in a house by the owner / occupier would get a pasting, surely this would be an incentive for burglars to ensure they were armed to the teeth whilst carrying out a burglary.

....and if disturbed, rather than trying to make a quick exit, they may be tempted to make a pre-emptive strike against the property owner rather than risk getting smashed over the head with a big stick as they ran away

this could put people at greater risk of being assaulted in their own homes

any thoughts?

[Steve]

For goodness sake, read my first post. That is just NOT TRUE, it is in fact a LIE, and repeating such an untruth is not helpful at all.

Rich :¬)

Dude, I think he's being sarcastic.

[Knoxville]

If I catch a burglar in my house im gonna use excessive force tbh, if they're gonna wander into my house un-invited, steal stuff to feed they're pipe habit and stab my brother in the neck with a screwdriver then they're gonna get what they deserve.

[Agent]

By all means hit them if they start a struggle with you, just don't sneak up behind them and crack their skull with a blow from a baseball bat.

If somone was in my house, trying to steal stuff that id worked every hour that god sends for, and i had that option, id have NO problem whatsoever doing that.

Instead of getting angry with burglars though, why not point the finger where the blame for all drug related burglary really lies- with the government. Since IIRC 75% of burglaries are drug related (I.E. they are carried out by drug users with habits to pay for), pretty much 75% of them could be prevented if you simply legalised all drugs.

Great idea.
While were at it, lets get rid of gun crime by making it legal to carry a firearm and shoot somone dead if you dont like the look of them.
Sorted.

[Rave]

If somone was in my house, trying to steal stuff that id worked every hour that god sends for, and i had that option, id have NO problem whatsoever doing that.

The law would have a problem though, and contrary to what the tabloids might like, there are no plans to change that.

Great idea.
While were at it, lets get rid of gun crime by making it legal to carry a firearm and shoot somone dead if you dont like the look of them.
Sorted.

If you're determined to be sarcastic rather than looking at the inherent sense behind the idea, the big difference is that: someone shooting you because they don't like the look of you does directly affect you, whereas someone shooting up some heroin because they don't like their life does not. If they bought that heroin for £2 legally, then the only person with a problem is them.

Guns are used to commit crimes, whereas drugs cause them to be commited. Big difference.

Rich :¬)

[Rave]

Dude, I think he's being sarcastic.

It's not the easiest post to understand, true. He's being sarcastic sure, but I don't think he agrees with me.

Rich :¬)

[Alex]

Unadvisable though it is, is it legal to pull a knife on a burglar? Even if he appears unarmed? I think my first instinct would be to run to the kitchen and grab the sharpest knife I could find...

[Rave]

Well, i don't think it'd be illegal if you just attempted to scare him off with it. I do think it'd be VERY inadvisable though, since knife fights have a tendency of going very wrong.

Rich :¬)

[megah0]

blunt instrument would be best i reckon.

A maglite torch in strategic places would be ideal

[Rave]

Well, I carry a double-AA mini-maglite with me pretty much anywhere I go. On the off-chance that I'm ever mugged, it'll come in very handy as a fistload. I say off-chance though because I've lived in London for 21 of my 25 years and nobody has ever tried to mug me- nobody sober at least.

Plenty of people have gone on about how they wouldn't stand for any nonsense if they apprehended a burglar in their home. Has anybody here actually done that? Or, for that matter, has anybody here got involved when they saw a crime being committed?

Rich :¬)