David Cameron - New Conservative?

[Rave]

I do live somewhere where we don't have a democracy. Britain. We think we do, but what we have is a farce.

Say I want to vote my mate Joe Bloggs in. I can't go to the polling station and write on the ballot paper 'Joe Bloggs' and put an X next to his name, can I?

No. But you'd only need to collect 50 signatures and £500 to get him on the Ballot. Sod it, if the 'Rainbow Dreamticket Party' can get someone on the ballot I'm sure you can.

FWIW, I once turned up to vote in a by-election (the Romsey by-election of 2000 in fact when Sandra Gidley took the seat for the Lib Dems). It turned out that it was a local council election as well, so, knowing nothing about the candidates, I perused the list idly. It turned out that the Green Party candidate was a guy that I'd shared a room with at the NUS conference a year earlier. Now, I'd not voted for the Green party before (nor have I since) but I knew that the guy was a genuinely nice, friendly bloke with a sensible and realistic agenda so I voted for him. Politics can and does work on a personal level. I'm pretty sure he didn't win but I hope he didn't lose his deposit.

It's worth noting that Labour polled fewer votes in England than the Conservatives in the 2005 election- it was Scotland and Wales that won them their majority. That suits me TBH- my hatred of Michael Howard is second only to my hatred of David Blunkett (is it a prerequisite that to be Home Secretary you have to be a ****ing ****?). Nontheless, with Howard gone I really can't chose between Labour and the Conservatives.

Of course, in their current states I couldn't possibly vote for either of them. Labour are intent on turning the country into a 1984-esque police state with their lunatic ID Card bill- and the Conservatives have never actually apologised for foisting Thatcher on us- and until they do, they can go and **** themselves. So yet again I'm left voting for the useless Lib Dems. Frankly I ought to join them and try and put some proper fight into the weedy gits.

[RVF500]

There doesn't seem to be much in between with Thatcher, you either love her or hate her. Thing is, Thatcher 'left' govt 15 years ago. The world has revolved a few times since then. If we want to blame govts for history then I won't forgive the liberals for foisting Lord Haig on the British army (for example). I simply won't forgive Blair's parents for breeding.

Given the above results I think we have a strong case for giving Scotland and Wales independence. The only reason labour got back in is the Scots and Welsh must hate us as much as the French do .

Glad Blunkett has finally gone. He was obsessive/possesive and corrupt. Hang on I think I just described the cabinet. The scary thing is that Blair won't finish this term as prime minister, the insidious Brown stuff will have a shot at throttling the country before the next elections. Not sure which is worse but we go back to the 'least worse' option already outlined. Whereas as Blair is nothing more than a self serving empty vessel with a different view of the truth, Brown is just plain sinister.

[Nick F]

The result is coming out today at 3pm. I'm pretty sure tat Cameron will win. Only time will tell.

[badass]

I just wish the Monster raving loony party had enough backing and candidates in the last general election

[Nick F]

Wow he he killed David 2 votes to 1.

[RedPutty]

We already have a corrupt right wing party in government, I doubt the Tories would actually be worse and they *might* pee away less of our money.

[specofdust]

Well, I too have lost faith in our form of democracy. Getting rid of the elective system and having direct democracy would be what I'd want, the technology exists to make that possible. Or at the very least getting rid of First Past the Post in favour of something more open to non-established parties.

Benevelont dictatorship is the way to go though, the general public are too damn stupid to deserve a vote.

[Darth Sidious]

Thats great news indeed!

He did a great job on Aliens, T2 and The Abyss so he should work wonders 4 Da Tories

[G4Z]

That would be James Cameron your talking about there yeah?

[badass]

Benevelont dictatorship is the way to go though, the general public are too damn stupid to deserve a vote.

The problem is keeping it benevolent.

[RVF500]

Just had a look on the sky news website and they have a vote as to whether MPs deserve a pay rise. 93% voted no. So 10 000 people are smart enough to vote

The other 664 were probably MPs.

[Rave]

Just had a look on the sky news website and they have a vote as to whether MPs deserve a pay rise. 93% voted no. So 10 000 people are smart enough to vote

The other 664 were probably MPs.

PMSL. Way too true.

[Taz]

I think the Tories are playing an ace card. Blair is advocating controversial education reforms that don't sit well with many Labour MP's. Indeed, John Prescott has criticised Blair's plans!

Here's where I think the ace card is being played by David Cameron. He announced that he will support Tony Blair for the education reforms even if Blair's own MP's rebel against him! He's exploiting the rift in New Labour to the fullest and I think he will pull it off.

I mean, how embarrassing is it for a Labour Prime Minister to be fully supported by the opposition whilst having less support from his own MP's?

[RedPutty]

Yep I had to smile when I read about it.

I mean, how embarrassing is it for a Labour Prime Minister to be fully supported by the opposition whilst having less support from his own MP's?

They vote for his policies regularly which is no surprise as he is essentially right wing.

[RVF500]

I think the Tories have woken up and elected a leader whom they think can actually appeal to the nation and win an election. He will have a bank of experienced politicians to advise him should he get into office. He simply needs to lead and be the front man.

He has been criticised for being 'more style than substance'. Hang on, haven't the voters held on to a figure who is style over substance for 3 terms now?

Win an election, then work as a party. Not as the current incumbant does. Work as an egotistical individual. A well functioning team will always be more effective than an individual.

[Trippledence]

It’s a little disappointing when the voters are reduced to looking at the style and personality of the perspective PM’s . It would be better if we never saw the candidates before had, then the elections would be far more policy driven, than looking at how clean shaven they are, (Points at America).

In the battle of the spin artists I still think Tony has a bit more style than Cameron, who seems to be totally false, seeing Blair in a few interviews over the years, and the same for Kennedy, I have been suitably impressed with the way they carried them selves and gave reasonably direct answers. However Cameron seem so be from the Howard school of avoiding answering the question, I don’t want any of that.