David Cameron - New Conservative?

[Taz]

I was sorely disappointed when Kenneth Clarke lost out on the Tory leadership race. However, i've been watching David Cameron on TV in the last few weeks and he is growing on me. He's using a lot more 'street language' to appeal to younger voters and I think it will work.

If only he could change his image slightly as he reminds me of Oliver Letwin in the Tim-nice-but-dim way. Worse still he has a slight smugness that resembles Tony Blair. Excuse me while I go and throw up...

Other than that I think he could cause New Labour some problems at the next general election.

[Stewart]

Street talk?

Is he trying to win voteizzles from the Torizzles? Maybe he will be the next Prime Mizzle!

I've said Cameron will win from the start, and he now looks odds on. He is the Tory Blair, and in my opinion, thats what you need to win the next electizzle!

Vote Conservatizzle!

[Big RICHARD]

Street talk?

Is he trying to win voteizzles from the Torizzles? Maybe he will be the next Prime Mizzle!

I've said Cameron will win from the start, and he now looks odds on. He is the Tory Blair, and in my opinion, thats what you need to win the next electizzle!

Vote Conservatizzle!

ROFL!

The problem with the current system is that it is basically a 'least worst' system. Where the choice on the ballot paper is one of two bad choices and you have to vote for the slightly less undesirable of the two.

[Stewart]

Nah, Cameron is the man the Tories need if they are going to have a chance at the next election, which is why he will win.

He actually made some good points in the live Question Time debate as well, such as his point about Ecstasy and Herion both being class A drugs, and the fact that people don't take this seriosly.

Es need to be downgraded, and for a Tory to realise and support this shows they are not just electing another Toff with no real world experiance.

[Big RICHARD]

Nah, Cameron is the man the Tories need if they are going to have a chance at the next election, which is why he will win.

He actually made some good points in the live Question Time debate as well, such as his point about Ecstasy and Herion both being class A drugs, and the fact that people don't take this seriosly.

Es need to be downgraded, and for a Tory to realise and support this shows they are not just electing another Toff with no real world experiance.

You make a good point, but have the public forgiven the tories enough to vote them back in?

[Stewart]

I'd ask if the public have had enough of New Labour, spin, and other cock-ups to not kick them out. Now, if they have, they will vote them out, but maybe they are not willing to vote back in the same old Tories they kicked out last time.

Solution? Tory government, but with someone young, with a bit of a softer image (Cameron is a family man, has the did he \ didn't he drug taking issue, which in this case is a plus, as it is another tick in the 'lives in the real world' box, etc), who people can stomach.

So, in short, if the public can get their head around the Tories being in power again, they are more likely to kick Labour out, and Cameron has the best chance of turning the Tories image around, therefore, he is the best choice for Tory leader.

[Big RICHARD]

I'd ask if the public have had enough of New Labour, spin, and other cock-ups to not kick them out. Now, if they have, they will vote them out, but maybe they are not willing to vote back in the same old Tories they kicked out last time.

Solution? Tory government, but with someone young, with a bit of a softer image (Cameron is a family man, has the did he \ didn't he drug taking issue, which in this case is a plus, as it is another tick in the 'lives in the real world' box, etc), who people can stomach.

So, in short, if the public can get their head around the Tories being in power again, they are more likely to kick Labour out, and Cameron has the best chance of turning the Tories image around, therefore, he is the best choice for Tory leader.

So we vote in the least worst of the time in 2005 (*may not be true, however that's a different argument) and then they progressively get worse and worse until they are now no longer the least worst when the next election comes along and the least worst get voted in.

Yay for democracy! \o/

[dangel]

You make a good point, but have the public forgiven the tories enough to vote them back in?

Why not? The public forgave labour enough to vote them back in Governments aren't displaced by opposition at all, just by the mistakes they make and the disatisfaction this causes. I'll go on record now as saying that labour won't make a fourth term in the next election - people are so sick of them that all the tories need do is come up with a palletable figurehead. Which leads me to..

My money was on cameron from the start too - simply because he's the only candidate that doesn't smack of 'old tory' - just as blair didn't smack of 'old labour'.
Irrespective of party loyalty it's high time labour went.

[dangel]

Yay for democracy! \o/

Yay for the fact we have it at all. Try travelling to some places where they don't

Grass is always greener..

[RedPutty]

I have never voted tory but as labour become more and more right wing its much less of a leap to consider voting tory.

[iranu]

I'm sorry but the old slogan "Oppositions do not win elections, Governments lose them" is all too true. We vote someone in because they can't be any worse than the last lot only to find 8 years down the line that actually they are. Worse being a relative thing.

[Big RICHARD]

Yay for the fact we have it at all. Try travelling to some places where they don't

Grass is always greener..

I do live somewhere where we don't have a democracy. Britain. We think we do, but what we have is a farce.

Say I want to vote my mate Joe Bloggs in. I can't go to the polling station and write on the ballot paper 'Joe Bloggs' and put an X next to his name, can I?

[dangel]

I do live somewhere where we don't have a democracy. Britain. We think we do, but what we have is a farce.

Really? So it's just like say... North Korea is it? Don't be silly

[Big RICHARD]

Really? So it's just like say... North Korea is it? Don't be silly

Just because there are worse places in the world doesn't mean that we, in modern Britain, should have to tolerate sub-standard government. In this age of t'internet and high speed communications we should be able to make use of these tools in order to improve our establishment.

[dangel]

Just because there are worse places in the world doesn't mean that we, in modern Britain, should have to tolerate sub-standard government. In this age of t'internet and high speed communications we should be able to make use of these tools in order to improve our establishment.

I wouldn't disagree - but we _do_ live in a democracy and we _do_ take it for granted. Fact is, the people of this country voted the current government in, three times over - so who's to blame? People are quite willing to grumble and moan about this and that, but at the end of the day if more people got off their collectives and used their vote (something a lot of people died to ensure you'd have) they could affect change. Not that this is directed necessarily at you, but turnout for elections in both the UK and the US is appalling and to me just says how apathetic and lazy we've become..

[Dark Horse]

I wouldn't mind so much if they could sort out proportional representation at some point soon but its highly unlikely