Found this view somewhere....

[TiG]

OMG that web site rocks Moby, no more work this afternoon its going to take me a while to read all of this

TiG

[Moby-Dick]

thought that might appeal to you mate

I found it to be pretty true - though I dont know how good it is to describe a stable relationship..

[TiG]

Heh, I'm not really bothered i just like reading alternative views on stuff.

TiG

[G4Z]

well, tbh women may or may not be easier to get into bed, but I think that every1 is more open about sex compared to 60 years ago, its a social non-sense that blokes wanna sleep around and women dont, women enjoy sex as well!!! (so long as the fella knows what he is doing...) Maybe this guy isnt going to the right places to meet the kind of woman he wants to. If you wanna pull a bird and get her into bed, go pull a slapper on a saturday night, on the other hand if you want a "relationship" you will have to look into dating women and meeting them in places other than pubs/clubs.

Personally I think the difference between a tart and a lady as he puts it is about more than how many men they have slept with.

[G4Z]

also, is that site written by a man or a woman...??

Im reading it now, its very very interesting. I actually used to think along these lines, but Ive been living with my g/f so long I rarely think about it anymore. But the ladder thing makes total sense and it is exactly how I assess women when I meet them, and I have done for as long asI can remember, its just not sommat you admit to women tho is it?

[G4Z]

Also just had to post this quote (a little edited)

There are some interests you can show in a woman that will help you to f*** her: a healthy interest in destroying her self-esteem and in f***ing her friends more than her seem to work wonders. Note that the following topics of disinterest have been field tested and shown conclusively not to work: Unix, literature, poetry, international politics, and sodomy.

[DaBeeeenster]

Originally posted by daniel_owen_uk
I hate this overly PC crap, a guy talks about how he would like all women to be and its sexist?

That to me is a load of rubbish, surely we all have the right to want?

How curious.

Firstly, are you suggesting that stating what work your potential girlfriend can or cannot do, and what alcoholic drink you potential girlfriend can or cannot choose is not sexist?

Secondly, can you explain how this is "overly politically correct"?

[Big RICHARD]

Originally posted by DaBeeeenster
How curious.

Firstly, are you suggesting that stating what work your potential girlfriend can or cannot do, and what alcoholic drink you potential girlfriend can or cannot choose is not sexist?

Secondly, can you explain how this is "overly politically correct"?

Thank you! Bloody hell! I am against all this 'over politcal correctness crap', but your reply here gives me the confidence that I am right! Cheers matey!

[G4Z]

Well Im against overly PC crap, he is entitled to his rather sexist opinion!

the opinion in itself is sexist. but to be honest we are all jugemental and we all have pre concived ideas and to a greater or lesser extent we are all sexist/racist/fattist/whatever because when you meet some1 you are allways gonna make a judgement about them because of the way they look. This is something to do with evolution and nobody can help making that snap judgement in the first half second of meeting some1.

some might think some of my views are sexist but after reading that site I realised what I realised when I was 16 and forgot about, Im just normal and its normal to think of women as sex objects. (although there is obviosly more to a woman than her sex appeal.)

[DaBeeeenster]

I'm not saying the original author is not entitled to his views, of course he is, but I do think it's funny that he's complaining that there are no "ladies" around when he has overtly sexist attutides. Most "ladies" I know find the beliefs he has expressed quite distasteful.

[Byatt]

Originally posted by Moby-Dick

http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html

Superb. Utterly, utterly brilliant.

[Galant]

A very interesting post.

Certainly the author's character is questionable, but then that doesn't necessarily mute his point. Whilst the bit about what a lady drink and wears etc is a little strange and I don't think I'd include it, I like what he says about woman of higher moral fiber, and who is mature enough to get over silly, 'who's the stronger sex' games.

I think that the majority of people (women) who'd be offended by this post would be those who know their behaviour is less than the moral standard defined and want to justify it, and who can't get passed those games!

But what I particularly like is the idea that whilst this guy is aware that his behaviour (and that of the 'usual' woman) seems to be the norm (most common), yet another, better, higher standard of behaviour is preferable.

Could it be that whilst behaving 'like animals' is easier and offers more immediate pleasure, humans acknowledge a better behaviour as preferable, and more suitable for human beings??