First Build New Haswell

[xAshes]

Hi, this is my first build and I am looking for advice on the parts which I have chosen as to whether or not I should stick with them or change to different parts. I will be mostly using the pc for gaming and programming. I would post urls to each product but as i am under 5 posts, I am unable to provide the links.

My Budget for this build is as close to £1000 as possible, including delivery.

CPU: Intel i5-4670k
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler for All Intel/AMD CPU's
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 GAMING Intel Z87 Socket 1150 Motherboard
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 770 Gaming Graphics Card - 2GB
PSU: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Case: Cooler Master HAF XM Gaming Mid Tower
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
HDD: WD 750GB 3.5" SATA-III 6Gb/s Caviar Black Hard Drive - 7200RPM 64MB Cache
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter

Thanks for any help you can give

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I would get a different motherboard and get a better PSU:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-...dvi-d-hdmi-atx
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-...-quiet-fan-atx

However,unless you need Crossfire or SLI I would go for a cheaper motherboard.

Also,if you are overclocking one of these coolers would be a better choice:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsa...-am3-fm1-and-f
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsa...ator-plus-2-fa

BTW,if you intend to play online games,you might find a wireless connection not to be ideal.

[xAshes]

A wireless connection isnt ideal however there isnt an ethernet connection available where the computer is going to be at so it is needed . What benefits does the asus motherboard have over the MSI one? The PSU looks good as its also cheaper but is the quality as good as the corsair one I listed?

I will consider those coolers but I was not initially looking into watercooling. Are there any air coolers which would be a better option than the evo 212 but at a similar price?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The 212 EVO is a good budget air cooler,but Haswell runs hot when overclocked so the water cooler might help. However,you will need to check your case will be compatible.

The PSU is made by Seasonic and gets decent reviews.

[MrJim]

A wireless connection isnt ideal however there isnt an ethernet connection available where the computer is going to be at so it is needed .

You could use a pair of powerline ethernet adapters to connect your computer; they're very easy to set up, and offer a much more stable connection than wireless, in my experience.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-200M...erline+adapter

[Willzzz]

I have a Xigmatek Dark Knight cooling my 4670K, it's nice and cheap, looks great and provides better cooling than the 212 Evo.
http://www.dabs.com/products/xigmate...igmatek&src=16

Of course temperatures depend largely on what voltage you use, but the more recent Haswell chips tend to overclock quite well on air.

[xAshes]

I will look into whether watercooling is possible and if I want to do that and then consider the watercoolers. As for the Xigamatek cooler, I will look into the reviews and compare, thanks for the suggestion.

I have looked into powerline ethernet adapters but it seems that using a surge protector extension plug can affect their performance. A way round this was to get passthrough adapters (where the surge protector would be plugged into the adapter) but that would work out around double the price of the wireless card. Would the connection quality improve enough to make getting the adapters worth it?

[MrJim]

I have looked into powerline ethernet adapters but it seems that using a surge protector extension plug can affect their performance. A way round this was to get passthrough adapters (where the surge protector would be plugged into the adapter) but that would work out around double the price of the wireless card. Would the connection quality improve enough to make getting the adapters worth it?

I'm aware that surge protected sockets prevent powerline adapters from working. I have used them with non-surge protected power-strips without any problems though. Pass-through adapters are quite a bit more expensive, it's true. Powerline adapters do provide for a more stable & consistent ethernet connection in my experience, but of course much will depend on the quality of your net connection & wiring in your home.

[Scainer]

Power line adapters and one of these to avoid the surge issue

http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/electrica...?skuId=9299331

[Willzzz]

I will look into whether watercooling is possible and if I want to do that and then consider the watercoolers. As for the Xigamatek cooler, I will look into the reviews and compare, thanks for the suggestion.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...er-Review/1576
(you can see comparisons to many more coolers in a more recent review: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...-Review/1794/6)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/473...iew/index.html

It's hard to find a direct comparison to the Evo, this is the best I could find:
http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...articleID=2693

It is quite loud at full speed, but I have mine set on silent in the bios and it still cools very well.

[xAshes]

I will consider the powerline adapters but even if I got the non-surge power strip the cost would work out around the same as just buying the pass through adapters.

I wouldn't be overclocking the CPU initially but would like the option open in the future as I think I would try it in the future. Would the evo or Xigmatek provide decent cooling for overclocking?

I've also noticed that the PSU linked by cat isn't "haswell ready". Does this matter and would it be better to get one which is "haswell ready"?

[Willzzz]

I suspect the PSU is Haswell ready, where are you reading that it is not?

Overclocking is quite random, mine is at 4.5ghz @ 1.224v, I have my cooler set to silent and it hits 77C max on the hottest core under full load, which is very acceptable to me.
Other CPUs may perform very differently.

[Willzzz]

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/silve...-am2-am3-fm1-f

Very cheap and had some excellent reviews.
Although some reviews were less good and I don't personally like the look.

[xAshes]

The PSU says that it isn't haswell ready on the scan.co.uk website. Looking into it, it seems as though the psu wouldnt support the C6/C7 power states introduced with haswell. However, I think that these states can be disabled, does anybody have any experience with this and whether this matters?

[kalniel]

The PSU says that it isn't haswell ready on the scan.co.uk website. Looking into it, it seems as though the psu wouldnt support the C6/C7 power states introduced with haswell. However, I think that these states can be disabled, does anybody have any experience with this and whether this matters?

Scan are wrong. See http://xfxforce.com/pt-br/Features/h...-supplies.aspx

[Willzzz]

I can't see anywhere where Scan say it is not Haswell compatible.

I would assume that all quality PSUs are compatible unless you hear otherwise from a reputable source.