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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    RAM and SSD arrived but...

    Literally sent me an empty box... Wtf?!
    Wow thats insane.
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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    I'm sure they can track it back to the individual concerned.
    Perhaps, but my guess would be the person who picked it wasn't the one who took it. I'm guessing they sit on a shelf and a previous picker decided to help himself to one of the other boxes, I was just unlucky to get that box.

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Helloooooo

    Really wish my PSU was arriving today now, could have been a fun evening!


    What you can see in the board pic is the CPU cooler bracket that I need to figure out.

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    It appears to be quite easy to remove the HS fins from the RAM. Can't imagine they will be necessary so it should guarantee clearance for my DR3

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Urgh... so the mechanism is actually really bloody stupid.

    You fit the backplate to the underside of the board and clip the screws on, so they're at least captive. You then add the brackets to the cooler, but they have the nut on them, so you have to screw the backplate into the bracket from the bottom of the board.

    I don't have the possibility to get to the underside of my board without taking the whole motherboard off, which will make maintenance a bit of a pig.




    After the first fitting I might hot glue the screws in so that they dont move and I just have to secure the top nut to the sleeved nut.
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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Amazon. Another one arriving tomorrow with minimal effort which is good.

    Really obviously been taken out by a warehouse worker.
    That's terrible! Puts me off ordering from Amazon I must say. I have a nephew who worked at an Amazon warehouse for a short while. He said they basically weigh returns, and don't tend to check them very closely. So if the weights match (or in this case, is probably within the range of error), such things can happen. So it could've been a previously returned item you were unlucky enough to get (or not, in this case).

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Nice system. I built something similar a few months back. (Spec in forum System details to the left).


    The Ryzen 2700X is a great CPU. I get the same single core performance as my old i5-4690k @ 4.5GHz. Everything is a lot smoother as a result of all the extra cores/threads in the Ryzen

    Got the same PSU as you. Also very impressed. Well presented and all the velcro tie-wraps were really helpful during the build. The PSU is ace and runs extremely quiet. Mostly runs in silent mode with the PSU fan only spinning up on the really hot days we had recently.

    The RGB effect is fairly nice on the Wraith Prism cooler. I have all the RGB-ness off in my computer as I have a solid sound-proof side panel. The cooler does a good job keeping my CPU cool enough to boost to around 4.0-4.075GHz under heavy load while still remaining fairly quite.

    That motherboard looks great. I probably would of gone for a B450 myself but only the X470 motherboards were out when I got my Asus X470-Pro. That said I'm really happy with the Asus X470-Pro. Feels very much like a higher-end motherboard. Instead of a cheaper motherboard with a load of bling added on to up the price.

    On the RAM side of things.... good luck! I'm still having cold/warm boot issues with my TeamGroup 3200Mhz 16GB kit. Its B-die but in 2 ranks. Stability wise its perfect but I just can't be guaranteed my system will boot which is a royal pain in the backside when trying to wake up my system remotely. Have to drop the memory speed down to 2666Mhz to be sure it will boot. Asus/TeamGroup assure me they have fixed the issue I'm just waiting for a new BIOS release. I was told the fix was in the last BIOS a month ago but I was left disappointed. Asus BIOS's don't seem to be as good as my previous Asus motherboards

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Turns out the mounting is basically the same for intel 115x... Oh well...

    Test fit is successful. Pretty sure the VRM sink should have enough airflow, same with M.2 slot given it will be wedged in-between a GPU and CPU.



    Anyone any thoughts on if there is any point adding a heatsink to these MOSFETS?

    I guess these are SOC therefore it's not really needed?


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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Firejack View Post
    The Ryzen 2700X is a great CPU. I get the same single core performance as my old i5-4690k @ 4.5GHz. Everything is a lot smoother as a result of all the extra cores/threads in the Ryzen
    Should feel like a world better than my 3570K then, which I only briefly had overclocked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firejack View Post
    Got the same PSU as you. Also very impressed. Well presented and all the velcro tie-wraps were really helpful during the build. The PSU is ace and runs extremely quiet. Mostly runs in silent mode with the PSU fan only spinning up on the really hot days we had recently.
    Sounds like exactly what I'm looking for then, which is good as I just put pure trust in CAT5's suggestion and ordered it without reading loads of reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by Firejack View Post
    On the RAM side of things.... good luck! I'm still having cold/warm boot issues with my TeamGroup 3200Mhz 16GB kit. Its B-die but in 2 ranks. Stability wise its perfect but I just can't be guaranteed my system will boot which is a royal pain in the backside when trying to wake up my system remotely. Have to drop the memory speed down to 2666Mhz to be sure it will boot. Asus/TeamGroup assure me they have fixed the issue I'm just waiting for a new BIOS release. I was told the fix was in the last BIOS a month ago but I was left disappointed. Asus BIOS's don't seem to be as good as my previous Asus motherboards
    Well the kit I ordered is B die, 1 rank, CAS 17@3733 AND it says supported by AMD on the box... so if it doesn't work really well when clocked at 3466, I'll be quite upset!
    If it does, I actually think its quite a significant bargain for under £200.

    Edit: not an empty box this time... Wooo!
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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Ryzen and memory still seems really hit and miss. The 2 reviews on the OcUK website have people using this memory in Ryzen systems with the DOCP profile no problem. Then I read others having similar issues to me. What makes it more confusing is TeamGroup also make a 3000Mhz kit that is 1 rank instead of 2 and actually overclocks higher as a result. Clock for clock the 2 rank memory is slightly faster. Although it just doesn't seem to be worth the extra hassle of being at the mercy of BIOS updates to get it to boot reliably. Been a frustrating experience as actually getting memory that's on the QVL list only to find it doesn't work quite right is annoying.

    In terms of heat on the VRMs. I've not noticed anything remotely close to the temperatures other people are reporting. I thought my VRMs temp sensors might be reporting the wrong values (as thats another issue with Asus's motherboards right now). However running a stress test and then feeling the VRMs for myself they are hot but not boiling hot. I'm thinking it could just be the effect of the down-firing Wraith Prism cooler (???)

    If you are planning to use a dedicated graphics card I'd move the fan on your CPU cooler so its sucking air front-to-back instead of bottom-to-top. I've had issues in the past with my CPU running hot because the CPU cooler fan was sucking in the hot air exhausted by the graphics card.

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    You are going to love my Ryzen 2600/2600X build when I eventually get the parts. It will be with 2400MHZ RAM overclocked to 2666MHZ. I refuse to spend so much more on RAM,when the set I have was under £60!!

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Firejack View Post
    In terms of heat on the VRMs. I've not noticed anything remotely close to the temperatures other people are reporting. I thought my VRMs temp sensors might be reporting the wrong values (as thats another issue with Asus's motherboards right now). However running a stress test and then feeling the VRMs for myself they are hot but not boiling hot. I'm thinking it could just be the effect of the down-firing Wraith Prism cooler (???)
    Down firing cooler will definitely help with that.

    Here are some little heatsinks and some thermal tape I have kicking about, not sure if it's really worth it though, perhaps worth getting some bigger copper based ones if anything.



    Quote Originally Posted by Firejack View Post
    If you are planning to use a dedicated graphics card I'd move the fan on your CPU cooler so its sucking air front-to-back instead of bottom-to-top. I've had issues in the past with my CPU running hot because the CPU cooler fan was sucking in the hot air exhausted by the graphics card.
    As for the CPU cooler, this is unfortunately the only orientation that will work due to the mounting mechanism, there is some space between the GPU and CPU though

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    You are going to love my Ryzen 2600/2600X build when I eventually get the parts. It will be with 2400MHZ RAM overclocked to 2666MHZ. I refuse to spend so much more on RAM,when the set I have was under £60!!
    EPEEN AT DANGEROUSLY LOW LEVELS

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Here are some little heatsinks and some thermal tape I have kicking about, not sure if it's really worth it though, perhaps worth getting some bigger copper based ones if anything.
    I think those VRMs would only get a real workout if you were to overclock an APU on your motherboard. Since you've got those black heatsinks already though, I'd stick with those - they look good too

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

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    EPEEN AT DANGEROUSLY LOW LEVELS
    It fits with the size of the build!!

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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    Well I threw the thing together with the existing PSU and pulled all my old wires out, left the sides off, unscrewed and removed the bottom fan bracket (it's not going back in), removed HDD cage, unplugged all the HDD & SSD, fired it up, posted first time and just started installing windows...

    I'm gonna leave that doing it's thing and come back to it in the morning.



    I've decided airflow-wise I'm going to ditch the top rear fan (as well as the affor mentioned lower fan bracket and fan... HDD really don't need forced air) and just have 2 in and 2 out flowing left to right.
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    Re: Time to upgrade the old girl...

    FFS... goddamn b die tool was way off:


    Its working though, so at least thats something.

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