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    Want new cheap pc . please help

    Hi guys , i am after a pc with usbc connections and also a pc that can handle the new windows as this system below cant , here is current specs so i can i use any of these parts or need a new pc or just get a usb c adapter and save some money lol

    MB - B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (MS-7C02)
    CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with Radeon Vega Graphics - Socket AM4 (1331)
    OS - Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64)
    MEMORY - 16 GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15R Vengeance LPX Red, (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3000 MHz C15 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit
    HDD - ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512GB M.2 Gaming SSD
    PSU - dont remember but at least 650 watts

    thanks in advance

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    You have plenty of CPU options with that motherboard so I'd be inclined to keep it.

    What's wrong with it currently, as I'm surpsied this can't handle Windows 11. I have built a 6 series i5 machine running just fine with it.

    What do you use the computer for and what are you trying to aim for?

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    If it doesnt like Windows 11 it might be down to the TPM side of things, check your BIOS settings as the AMD chips usually have it on the CPU rather than a separate module on the board...

    As for USB-C, you can get a PCIe card with USB-C ports on it...

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    Didn't sound like you're a million miles away from what you want, Windows 11 compatibility check and maybe a bios tweak if needed?

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    Sadly your 2400G isn't on the Windows 11 compatibility list. Not sure why, but Microsoft don't seem to support Zen1 based CPUs with yours included. So first up, there should be a USB C port around the back of your PC. If you want something on the front, what do you need it for? There are cards and drive bay adaptors that might help with that. If that's OK, then you can keep your motherboard.

    * Upgrade the BIOS

    You need at least BIOS 7C02v3A.zip to support a more recent AMD APU, so best just put the latest on there. That will also sort out any fTPM compatibility issues the board may have had with Windows 11.

    * Install a new CPU

    I would suggest a 5600G https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5...dp/B092L9GF5N/
    That would be a lot faster than your existing 2400G, and is on the compatibility lists for both your motherboard and Windows 11 while not being that expensive. There is also the 4600G if you want to go cheaper. That wouldn't be as fast as the 5600G, but still a step up from your existing CPU.

    At that point, run the Microsoft PC checking app and see what it complains about. Hopefully you are done, but if nothing else a clean install of Windows 10 should at that point get you something that can upgrade to 11.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    All looks good, some usb cards have a type e header if you case has the connector.

    As for Windows 11 I don't believe the 2400G is supported, I know the 3400G is as I am running one on windows 11.

    A 3400g would be a drop in and a small upgrade or go for a 5600g/5700g but make sure you update the bios before swapping.

    With that there is many more CPUs which could fit if you want a separate GPU.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    Can't you just bypass the tpm check? There are plenty of ways on how to do it
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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    Can't you just bypass the tpm check? There are plenty of ways on how to do it
    This true but then your only one update away from it being broken, I just leave older machines on windows 10 for now as there is still supported until October 2025 and I would guess with enough users vital security updates will still come after that or windows 11 will be opened up more.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    Can't you just bypass the tpm check? There are plenty of ways on how to do it
    Yeah I should point out that's what I did with the 6 series i5 I'd built and it runs absolutely fine with 16GB and desktop use.
    Unfortunately I don't recall the exact model of i5.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    Ryzen 5700X for about £160 *update to latest BIOS before installing 5700X* but expect it would work out of the box being the Max version
    32Gb RAM kit for about £70
    2Tb NVME Gen3 Crucial P3 / P3 Plus - £100
    Decent aftermarket cooler - Thermalright Peerless Assassin or similar - £35

    £360 for a much better spec system - £15 for the CPU - £30 for the RAM

    Closer to £300 total cost.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    Quote Originally Posted by AGTDenton View Post
    Yeah I should point out that's what I did with the 6 series i5 I'd built and it runs absolutely fine with 16GB and desktop use.
    Unfortunately I don't recall the exact model of i5.
    I had to do it on an old AMD laptop, its been fine ever since through all the updates. Plus secureboot is now turned off as I dual boot with Linux
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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk View Post
    Ryzen 5700X for about £160 *update to latest BIOS before installing 5700X* but expect it would work out of the box being the Max version
    That 5700X would also require a discrete GPU to be plugged in, which could double the upgrade cost. We would need to know what the PC is used for to know what the PC is being used for to know if that route is a good one.

    I'm guessing if the OP is using 2400G integrated graphics and not complaining about it, then GPU isn't a big requirement.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    For a budget machine a 5600 would suffice (assuming a discrete GPU is present) they're cheap and the gaming performance on a lower end card is negligble compared to an 8 core chip, as for productivity it's also waaay faster than a 2400G and leaves another eventual upgrade path to something like a 57/5800X3D down the line.

    + just buy a PCI-E > USB-C adapter card to add those ports.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    just watch movies thats all and maybe some video editing in the future but thats a big maybe , only want usb c as most of my devices are usb c so want the compatibility.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    ok will have a look if there is usb c connection , if so will just stick to this pc ,thanks.

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    Re: Want new cheap pc . please help

    no windows 11 cos it dont meet TPM 2.0 and the processor aint supported.

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