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About LinkBacksRead more.Microsoft's trimmed down successor to Windows Live OneCare is said to be imminent. Should the likes of Symantec be worried?
Read more.Microsoft's trimmed down successor to Windows Live OneCare is said to be imminent. Should the likes of Symantec be worried?
I wonder if this is going to be totally free, or whether it is going to be free for home users only.
I can't find it now, but The Register had a story on this triggered by an AV review in May that showed MS was suddenly in the Top 5 for detection rates / false positives.
If this can be maintained, Symantec and it's mastodon of an app may have good reason to worry. In the mean time I'll continue with Avast TYVM. Normally places 2nd tier with AVG in these reviews, and I had issues with AVG under Vista.
Society's to blame,
Or possibly Atari.
More importantly, how effective will it be!
Given the way the upsell on consumers at the PCWorld like places is a major source of income, i doubt they have much to worry about.
Espesually as by the sounds of it, it has little corperate features.
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No more than say AVG or Avast! do.Originally Posted by Hexus
It all really depends on how well t does the job. AV software is one area in which nearly everybody checks reviews/seeks advice before choosing.
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it will use the same engine and sigs as Microsoft Forefront Client Security. to see how good the detection is check here
since they are still selling forefront i assume morro is free for home users only.
the more compotition the better imo.
lets just hope they update it automatically alot more than windows defender.
you can get windows defender updtes every day if you get them manually. but its comes through winows update once a week.
and lets hope windows update isnt used as the update method.
btw symantec have just released norton 2009 classic which costs money but lacks adware and spyware detection lol.
To clarify - it's good. Better than AVG or Avast.
Society's to blame,
Or possibly Atari.
In the enthusiast market, maybe. But I'd guess that in the mass market, a lot more will depend on how its marketed. Success isn't always a function of product quality, and may more often be a function of marketing effectiveness, brand awareness, etc.
And, in the PC software world, who has a more widely known name among the mass market than Microsoft. I mean, I know quite a few people that barely know more about their PC than how to switch it on, check their email, do their online banking and write a letter in Word. They wouldn't know a small, specialised AV solution company(like AVG or Avast) from an intergalactic alien lifeform, but if an AV solution is from MS, then it must be good, right?
And if MS either 'flips the bird' to the competition authorities and include it in Windows as default, or just provide a link so that when you install Windows, it offers the option to install this 'free AV solution', then it's going to wind up on an awful lot of new PCs whether it's any good or not. After all, IE buried Netscape.
It will need to be good to get the likes of members of this forum to use it, and we will be basing it on detection rates, false positives and usage of system resources, etc. But will Joe Public? I doubt it.
And lets face it, it's going to have to go some to be worse than Symantec and even if the detection rate isn't much better, I'll actually be impressed if they manage to make it more bug ridden, unreliable and resource hungry. Lets face it, you could only do that if you actually tried!
So for that very reason, this gets a thumbs up from me. The fewer people I see with the "compulary" PCWorld or Comet copy of Symantec along with theri laptops the better.l
to me it seems that Microsoft's engine is very good detection rate with solid generic signatures.
AVG 8 seris has had quite alot of issues and then there is the fact it bundles a toolbar that other av vendors flag as malware. I normally recommend avast for users who dont have money to spend on an av.
If morro is light on resources and does provide the same detection rate as forefront im sure tons of people will use it. since its there own operating system I would assume the cleaning up of malware already on a system would also be very decent and it may re enable stuff disabled by malware.
Once it comes out i will try it.
I see nothing wrong with using an AV from MS as long as its light,good detection and has a proper update system aka not using windows update for sigs. using windows update for program updates is fine but not for sig updates.
Last edited by lodore; 11-06-2009 at 12:34 PM.
I thought most people were scared into buying computer protection by staff in PCWorld...
That plus most computers come bundled with norton or mcafee so they use it.
currently run my home pc with no antivirus and no firewall as a test, may end up testing morro(anybody else get the urge to add: wwind to the end of that name?) just to see how quick it is on a low resource machine
A test of what?!?
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot the mandatory XKCD reference
Last edited by scaryjim; 11-06-2009 at 01:19 PM.
I sometimes drive to work with no seat belt on - as a test.
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