Read more.Upcoming HD 4000 IGP looks set to raise the bar for integrated Intel graphics.
Read more.Upcoming HD 4000 IGP looks set to raise the bar for integrated Intel graphics.
It will be interesting to see how DX11 performance is with the HD4000, as earlier leaks put DX11 performance around the same as the AMD Llano A4 CPU. It does seem the HD4000 will be a big improvement for Intel laptops though,although the leaked roadmaps indicate most Ivy Bridge desktop SKUs will be using the much slower HD2500 IGP.
Edit!!
Why was 3DMark11 run on the less demanding entry level preset?? It makes more sense to run it on the performance setting, as most reviews tend to do the same with graphics cards and it is freely accessible to free users too.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 20-02-2012 at 01:26 PM.
I hope this chip gets into the limited April launch, having said that if it does they'll be in high demand and that will inflate the price.
Here is a link to the article with games benchmarks:
http://en.expreview.com/2012/02/19/i...est/21214.html
The games were run at 1280X720.
Some of the framerates for the HD3000 IGP look artificially low:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/417...ed/index9.html
FarCry2 hits around 27FPS on 1280X800 on very high with the HD3000.The A8-3850 OTH is over 50% faster with 1333MHZ RAM.
The HD3000 IGP can run Streetfighter IV at 1280X800 on the highest settings at 53FPS:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/417...ed/index8.html
The A8 3850 runs the game at 83FPS.
With SC2 on medium settings running at 1280X1024,the HD3000 IGP runs the game at 36FPS:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/5
The A8 3850 runs the game at around 68FPS.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 20-02-2012 at 02:17 PM.
Slightly O/T but: Is SNB and thus IVB, classed as an APU - or should it be?
Given they're one-die chips and offer accelerated capabilities like QuickSync?
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for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
I thought APU was just a marketing name used by AMD
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Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
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for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
Intel are known as a CPU company to the general public, and their graphics are sufficient for most of that market but nothing exciting so I don't think they need/want to blabber about APUs or graphics too much, they'd rather trumpet their superior general CPU performance and leak a little to the tech press about the graphics upgrades so enthusiasts know the score.
AMD like to move towards talking loudly about APUs to blunt Intel's reputation as the CPU company by talking about something else other than CPUs and thus AMD can become the APU company, also AMD as more of a graphics company want to make a bigger play of the graphics side of the coin and thus bring people onto AMD graphics and then up-sell discrete cards...
APU is an AMD marketing word I wouldn't expect Intel to pick up and use.
Well not really, AMD aren't just doing CPU with a GPU glued on, they're aiming to make the GPU part easily accessible to programmers to greatly accelerate suitable applications and AFAIK are aiming to blur the line between the two. Quicksync is a hardware accelerator, but it's about the only thing - Intel IGPs only start support for OpenCL with Ivy Bridge, Llano has had it since the start and it remains to be seen how capable a compute platform it is vs CUDA, GCN or even AMD's existing architecture.
Because they'd be lying, AMD are still far ahead with GPU performance. If AMD felt threatened by Intel's GPU performance it would be relatively trivial for them to step up GPU performance to keep their lead while Intel have struggled with anything but basic GPU performance - look at Larrabee. For the moment at least, there's not a huge amount of difference between the GPU part of the APU and the discrete GPUs.
It's funny how Intel will always claim their graphics performance is "good enough" when it's obvious they are working on improving graphics a lot! Now I know for a lot of people you won't need more than Intel graphics, however my experience(before HD2000 and so on). Was that a lot of people buy a laptop for family use, and being limited to browsing and spreadsheets isn't exactly all around family fun, and would often hear peoples dissapointment because of that. Anyway it's nice that Intel isn't just ignoring the fact that people don't mind a GPU capable of more than showing a picture on your screen, but I can't see them in league with AMD when it comes to intergrated graphics, anytime soon.
I think most people buy an expensive laptop with a fast CPU, big HDD, lots of RAM (big numbers FTW) and expect it to play the latest games. Heck I even had a friend ask my advice on a PC he was about to buy for gaming, which had something like a GT210 GPU which I said would not be capable of running new games very well. Of course, he ignored me, thinking the 1GB video memory meant it was good (despite me explaining otherwise) then came back after he'd bought it complaining and asking what GPU he should buy...
And that sort of thing puts people off PC gaming, buying an expensive new system with lots of big numbers but being disappointed because it can't run the games your console can. With half-decent IGP performance, your average PC will have a minimum of console-quality graphics in most games.
This is good news, but I still wish that an nVidia Optimus-esque technology could come with new motherboards. To my knowledge this still doesn't exist, but it would be easy enough for the folks at Intel to implement.
Maybe ThunderBolt or ePCIe (acronym made up - external PCI express) will allow for external addition and removal of powerful graphics cards, but I would like it to all be done from inside of a desktop (or laptop) case.
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