Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 54

Thread: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    31,709
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2,073 times in 719 posts

    Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    In some regions it has trialled messages telling people "you need your own account".
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Long member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    2,427
    Thanks
    70
    Thanked
    404 times in 291 posts
    • philehidiot's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Father's bored
      • CPU:
      • Cockroach brain V0.1
      • Memory:
      • Innebriated, unwritten
      • Storage:
      • Big Yellow Self Storage
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Semi chewed Crayola Mega Pack
      • PSU:
      • 20KW single phase direct grid supply
      • Case:
      • Closed, Open, Cold
      • Operating System:
      • Cockroach
      • Monitor(s):
      • The mental health nurses
      • Internet:
      • Please.

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    I don't really begrudge them this. There's a grey area between reasonable sharing and taking the smeg. If they want to start nibbling at the people pushing the bounds of reasonableness, they just need to be careful they don't go full accusatory.

  3. #3
    RIP Peterb ik9000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    7,701
    Thanks
    1,839
    Thanked
    1,434 times in 1,057 posts
    • ik9000's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P7H55-M/USB3
      • CPU:
      • i7-870, Prolimatech Megahalems, 2x Akasa Apache 120mm
      • Memory:
      • 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 2133 11-11-11-27
      • Storage:
      • 2x256GB Samsung 840-Pro, 1TB Seagate 7200.12, 1TB Seagate ES.2
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB SuperOverClocked
      • PSU:
      • NZXT Hale 90 750w
      • Case:
      • BitFenix Survivor + Bitfenix spectre LED fans, LG BluRay R/W optical drive
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Professional
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2414h, U2311h 1920x1080
      • Internet:
      • 200Mb/s Fibre and 4G wifi

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    shock horror: company asks users not to take the p.

  4. #4
    Moosing about! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    32,039
    Thanks
    3,910
    Thanked
    5,224 times in 4,015 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    It's probably because people are getting fedup of having to buy a 1000 streaming services for each show they want to watch,and then companies like Netflix nicely deciding to jack up prices at the same time. So people are being creative and probably sharing out accounts to family members,etc. I suppose the easier way is to not bother watching those shows, if you can't see the value in buying the attached streaming service.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 12-03-2021 at 12:47 PM.

  5. #5
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    12,978
    Thanks
    778
    Thanked
    1,586 times in 1,341 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB 3200MHz ECC
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Linux, 2TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 39 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Iiyama 27" 1440p
      • Internet:
      • Zen 900Mb/900Mb (CityFibre FttP)

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    With a son hoping to go to university next year, it will be interesting to see if they start enforcing this. They have been pretty lenient so far.

  6. #6
    Editable... jimbouk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Bristol
    Posts
    3,069
    Thanks
    319
    Thanked
    278 times in 226 posts
    • jimbouk's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asrock B450M-HDV R4.0
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 5 3600
      • Memory:
      • Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16
      • Storage:
      • Sabrent Rocket Q 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Core Gold GC-650
      • Case:
      • Lian-Li PC-V1100 ATX
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • AOC CU34G2/BK 34" Widescreen
      • Internet:
      • EE FTC

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    Seen the notification and validated, not much of a pain. Pre lockdown it would have been 'normal' for one household member to watch when working away from home during the week for example so it's going to have to be nag rather than strict enforcement.

    Real shame their stream quality and number of streams is linked - they're encouraging sharing by tiering it that way. Want HD? You now have an extra screen you'll never use. Want 4k, you now have 3. We don't all have a partner and 2.4 children...

  7. #7
    RIP Peterb ik9000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    7,701
    Thanks
    1,839
    Thanked
    1,434 times in 1,057 posts
    • ik9000's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P7H55-M/USB3
      • CPU:
      • i7-870, Prolimatech Megahalems, 2x Akasa Apache 120mm
      • Memory:
      • 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 2133 11-11-11-27
      • Storage:
      • 2x256GB Samsung 840-Pro, 1TB Seagate 7200.12, 1TB Seagate ES.2
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB SuperOverClocked
      • PSU:
      • NZXT Hale 90 750w
      • Case:
      • BitFenix Survivor + Bitfenix spectre LED fans, LG BluRay R/W optical drive
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Professional
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2414h, U2311h 1920x1080
      • Internet:
      • 200Mb/s Fibre and 4G wifi

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbouk View Post
    Seen the notification and validated, not much of a pain. Pre lockdown it would have been 'normal' for one household member to watch when working away from home during the week for example so it's going to have to be nag rather than strict enforcement.

    Real shame their stream quality and number of streams is linked - they're encouraging sharing by tiering it that way. Want HD? You now have an extra screen you'll never use. Want 4k, you now have 3. We don't all have a partner and 2.4 children...
    I'd hope not, as 0.4 of a child is going to be messy. I always feel sorry for the 0.4 children out there. In the bird world they'd just get pushed out of the nest/die of starvation. Given population issues it really ought to be 2 max shouldn't it? One-in one-out so to speak. Any more just seems greedy in an overpopulated world of insufficient and dwindling resources.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    3,526
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    468 times in 326 posts

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    So what the legalities of this, not that I'm asking for advise or anything like that, I'm just wondering where Netflix would stand legally, would it be a copyright thing or a breach of contract thing?

  9. #9
    RIP Peterb ik9000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    7,701
    Thanks
    1,839
    Thanked
    1,434 times in 1,057 posts
    • ik9000's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P7H55-M/USB3
      • CPU:
      • i7-870, Prolimatech Megahalems, 2x Akasa Apache 120mm
      • Memory:
      • 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 2133 11-11-11-27
      • Storage:
      • 2x256GB Samsung 840-Pro, 1TB Seagate 7200.12, 1TB Seagate ES.2
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB SuperOverClocked
      • PSU:
      • NZXT Hale 90 750w
      • Case:
      • BitFenix Survivor + Bitfenix spectre LED fans, LG BluRay R/W optical drive
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Professional
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2414h, U2311h 1920x1080
      • Internet:
      • 200Mb/s Fibre and 4G wifi

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    So what the legalities of this, not that I'm asking for advise or anything like that, I'm just wondering where Netflix would stand legally, would it be a copyright thing or a breach of contract thing?
    breach of contract would seem stronger. Copyright would presumably only apply if people were downloading and copying the thing or if netflix were knowingly sharing it willy-nilly. It's possible netflix may have been challenged on it hence this first step so they can say "we don't endorse it and are doing something - look". Any breach is ultimately the end user's/account holder's legal responsibility if Netflix have been clear in the T&Cs what is/isn't permitted.

  10. Received thanks from:

    Corky34 (12-03-2021)

  11. #10
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    12,978
    Thanks
    778
    Thanked
    1,586 times in 1,341 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB 3200MHz ECC
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Linux, 2TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 39 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Iiyama 27" 1440p
      • Internet:
      • Zen 900Mb/900Mb (CityFibre FttP)

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbouk View Post
    Seen the notification and validated, not much of a pain. Pre lockdown it would have been 'normal' for one household member to watch when working away from home during the week for example so it's going to have to be nag rather than strict enforcement.

    Real shame their stream quality and number of streams is linked - they're encouraging sharing by tiering it that way. Want HD? You now have an extra screen you'll never use. Want 4k, you now have 3. We don't all have a partner and 2.4 children...
    They can track unique devices as well as IP addresses. I'm sure they know when a child becomes a student when a device moves IP address to one used by a university halls, and with the "Who's watching" feature can even put a name to them. They can probably track divorces and stuff as well. They can also work out when a device and/or user never returns to the main IP address. With the amount of data they have available to them, I suspect they can carefully pick and choose who they kick out.

    As for the tiers, I get hit the other way up. We kept needing three streams, so now I pay for 4K despite not owning a 4K tv. But hey, all worth it for Bridgerton

    And yeah, we stopped at 2 children, not the extra 0.4

  12. #11
    RIP Peterb ik9000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    7,701
    Thanks
    1,839
    Thanked
    1,434 times in 1,057 posts
    • ik9000's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P7H55-M/USB3
      • CPU:
      • i7-870, Prolimatech Megahalems, 2x Akasa Apache 120mm
      • Memory:
      • 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 2133 11-11-11-27
      • Storage:
      • 2x256GB Samsung 840-Pro, 1TB Seagate 7200.12, 1TB Seagate ES.2
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB SuperOverClocked
      • PSU:
      • NZXT Hale 90 750w
      • Case:
      • BitFenix Survivor + Bitfenix spectre LED fans, LG BluRay R/W optical drive
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Professional
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2414h, U2311h 1920x1080
      • Internet:
      • 200Mb/s Fibre and 4G wifi

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    They can track unique devices as well as IP addresses. I'm sure they know when a child becomes a student when a device moves IP address to one used by a university halls, and with the "Who's watching" feature can even put a name to them. They can probably track divorces and stuff as well. They can also work out when a device and/or user never returns to the main IP address. With the amount of data they have available to them, I suspect they can carefully pick and choose who they kick out.

    As for the tiers, I get hit the other way up. We kept needing three streams, so now I pay for 4K despite not owning a 4K tv. But hey, all worth it for Bridgerton

    And yeah, we stopped at 2 children, not the extra 0.4
    Yeah 0.4 is an awkard ratio too. You'd have to team up with at least 4 other families, hope that all the different bits were all handed in the right way and complimentary rather than duplicate, and then unite them captain planet rings-style to make a whole. Who has the time for that? It'd be like a frustrating ikea flat pack where they've given you two lefts and no right, and then you're hunting on gumtree/ebay for someone with two rights and no left etc to do a swap. Then you'd have to work out a sharing system, and 5 is difficult when it comes dividing into days/weeks/months etc. 0.4 children. Just not practical is it?
    Last edited by ik9000; 12-03-2021 at 02:00 PM.

  13. #12
    MCRN Tachi Ttaskmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Reading, UK
    Posts
    6,917
    Thanks
    673
    Thanked
    806 times in 668 posts
    • Ttaskmaster's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Aorus Master X670E
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 7800X3D
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Corsair Dominator DDR5 6000MHz
      • Storage:
      • Samsung Evo 120GB and Seagate Baracuda 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Aorus Master 4090
      • PSU:
      • EVGA Supernova G2 1000W
      • Case:
      • Lian Li V3000 Plus
      • Operating System:
      • Win11
      • Monitor(s):
      • Gigabyte M32U
      • Internet:
      • 900Mbps Gigaclear WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbouk View Post
    Real shame their stream quality and number of streams is linked - they're encouraging sharing by tiering it that way. Want HD? You now have an extra screen you'll never use. Want 4k, you now have 3.
    Sorry, but what does this mean?
    Genuine question, as I've never used Netflix myself. The wife has it downstairs, but I couldn't even tell you where to find it in the living room!!
    _______________________________________________________________________
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Tyson
    like a chihuahua urinating on a towering inferno...

  14. #13
    Now 100% Apple free cheesemp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Near the New forest
    Posts
    2,948
    Thanks
    354
    Thanked
    255 times in 173 posts
    • cheesemp's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS TUF x570-plus
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 3600
      • Memory:
      • 16gb Corsair RGB ram
      • Storage:
      • 256Gb NVMe + 500Gb TcSunbow SDD (cheap for games only)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • RX 480 8Gb Nitro+ OC (with auto OC to above 580 speeds!)
      • PSU:
      • Cooler Master MWE 750 bronze
      • Case:
      • Gamemax f15m
      • Operating System:
      • Win 11
      • Monitor(s):
      • 32" QHD AOC Q3279VWF
      • Internet:
      • FTTC ~35Mb

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    I share my brothers netflix. He has the top package but only two TVs so I don't see the harm in use being the 3rd screen and to be fair we only use it for the kids stuff.

    If they locked this down would I buy Netflix? No is my genuine answer so I don't see how they are losing out. We already have Disney+ and Amazon Prime so I'm not going to get a 3rd service.
    Trust

    Laptop : Dell Inspiron 1545 with Ryzen 5500u, 16gb and 256 NVMe, Windows 11.

  15. #14
    Editable... jimbouk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Bristol
    Posts
    3,069
    Thanks
    319
    Thanked
    278 times in 226 posts
    • jimbouk's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asrock B450M-HDV R4.0
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 5 3600
      • Memory:
      • Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16
      • Storage:
      • Sabrent Rocket Q 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Core Gold GC-650
      • Case:
      • Lian-Li PC-V1100 ATX
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • AOC CU34G2/BK 34" Widescreen
      • Internet:
      • EE FTC

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Sorry, but what does this mean?
    Genuine question, as I've never used Netflix myself. The wife has it downstairs, but I couldn't even tell you where to find it in the living room!!
    https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926 - if you only need one screen/stream at a time you can either get the cheapest plan with standard definition streaming, or pay more for HD/ultra-HD which come with 2/4 screens/streams.

    If you and the wife want to watch something different at the same time you need the middle tier, (HD / 2 screens), but if you wanted UHD you need the top tier and would be paying for 2 extra screens you'd never use (UHD / 4 screens).

  16. #15
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    If they want to get stricter on password sharing then they should offer a wider range of single screen packages or better yet, drop the resolution limitation (an outdated restriction by this point anyway) from the packages so you were purely paying for the amount of screens you needed.

  17. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    902
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked
    34 times in 26 posts
    • Gentle Viking's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Aorus extreme X399
      • CPU:
      • TR 1920 X
      • Memory:
      • G Skill 64GB ( 8 X 8 ) PC3600 @ 3400
      • Storage:
      • Samsung evo 500GB nvme - 256GB Kingston SSD - 4TB spinning disk
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor 5700 XT red devil
      • PSU:
      • Corsair RM850I
      • Case:
      • Working on it, done summer 2020
      • Operating System:
      • windows 10 Ulti
      • Monitor(s):
      • 27" iiyama GB2788HS
      • Internet:
      • docis 3.1 cable 1000/100 mbit

    Re: Netflix ponders password sharing crackdown

    People in my family do this

    I also think this might be where streaming services will make the "same" mistakes the cable companies have made.
    I found the solution over a year ago, Do not have a TV, do not watch TV = problem solved.

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •