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About LinkBacksI'm not to sure what you're basing all that on. You're saying out right that iOS4 is better than Android 2.1? Please explain how?
Mind you, most of us have agreed that it shouldn't be the Wave... Galaxy S is probably a different matter though.
I'm not to sure what you're basing all that on. You're saying out right that iOS4 is better than Android 2.1? Please explain how?
Mind you, most of us have agreed that it shouldn't be the Wave... Galaxy S is probably a different matter though.
But the beauty of Android phones, you just buy it from somewhere cheaper than that, like Handtec where its £450.Originally Posted by directhex
It's all down to personal preference.
For the "techie" user who loves to customise to the maximum, is planning on rooting the phone, and isn't hugely bothered about apps..then a droid phone is clearly the way to go. You have more choice on handset, more freedom in terms of what you install and how you go about it, and arguably more features in the OS - like "beaming" files over bluetooth/IR.
For everyone else, the iPhone 4 is likely to be a better choice, depending on the hardware you are comparing against. Even for many techies the iPhone 4 will appeal..it sure does to me, and i've got one pre-ordered for collection on Thursday. I don't have any need for beaming files over bluetooth anymore (not used that feature on my XDA serra even once in the past 2 years) as I can just email files. I really like having the app store there with so much choice - there really is an app for everything, and even in the rare cases I want something different I can write one to do the job (gives me a use for my macOSX partition hehe). The interface is very slick and easy to use - it's just nicer than either the standard google UI or even HTC Sense..which is a UI i've sworn by for 2 years now. I had forgotten how good iPhone OS was UI wise until this week when i;ve been usingn a 3Gs for a bit.
So really i'm back to my original point - it's personal preference and what you see as a priority in your phone. Lots of people get hung up on Apples restrictive policies around iOS, and the simple fact that it is an Apple product and they over-hype everything massvely (facetime? come on we have been video calling for years!), but personally I really like the OS, the new phone hardware looks great in terms of features and design..so i'm looking forward to picking up my new phone. The cost is not extortionate either, very close to any other brand new smartphone..
This is the truth. It just makes me laugh people claiming Apple's OS is better, maybe because sure, it's probably a bit smoother and simpler to use.
Not being funny, they're only just bringing in wallpapers?!?! I mean, come on...
**EDIT** I would also say that Apple's dominance in the app world is no longer what it was. Sure, there are still loads more, but these days people know they need to make both and there are also quite a few Android apps cropping up that I don't think have iPhone equivalents.
I have bought the Samsung Wave and Im vary happy with it! Yes If you need a large App store then it is not the phone to choose just quit yet, but its filling upp nicely.
Im no phone nerd so I do not really know what you are reffering to when saying that the Wave is no smartphone, I can personal not see any diffrences becides that the app store is not that large yet?
The Samsung Wave offers same or bether hardware as IPhone 4 to a much better price, why pay more then you have to?
I supose everything comes down to the personal taste but we are a couple here that have bought Samsung Wave and thinks its a really good phone (even with version 1 of Bada). Pleas take it for a testdrive.
Now we are only waiting on some real head to head tests.
*sniff sniff* anyone else smell astroturf?
Hehe yeah right, or NOT. I do not work for Samsung in any way. Im just not seeing what it is with IPhone4 that make you belive that its a bargain, but I supose that its a mather of taste.
I am looking forward for a real head to head test =D
You're the first person in this thread to use the term "bargain".
Let's address what your previous post said, then.
The Bada app store has about 200 apps. The iPhone app store has about 200,000. These aren't numbers you can sensibly compare.
The major reason a smartphone is a smartphone is due to the extensibility and added functionality that comes from installing full-blown applications to it - without an app store, it might be a very clever mobile phone, but it's no smartphone. Even WebOS, which feels cripplingly limited when it comes to choice and variety of apps, is 10x larger than Bada's.
A smartphone should feel like a full-blown PC's functionality is available to you, on a smaller scale. Without the ability to install apps, it's a touchscreen phone with many features - but not a smartphone.
The iPhone 4 display measures 614,400 pixels. The Wave display is 37.5% lower, at 384,000 pixels. The CPU is more or less identical. Storage space is 91-95% lower on the Wave than the iPhone 4, unless one adds a MicroSD card to bring it up on par with the low-end iPhone 4.The Samsung Wave offers same or bether hardware as IPhone 4 to a much better price, why pay more then you have to?
The price of a Wave is definitely lower (£310 versus £500), but it's a lower-end device. By all means, you can say it's better value - but saying it's better hardware is outright fabrication.
It may well be a "really good phone", but it was being compared to a device in an entirely different class by the OP. It's not a direct competitor to the iPhone - it's Samsung lowering the cost of producing their own handsets by replacing Symbian with something in-house (Bada).I supose everything comes down to the personal taste but we are a couple here that have bought Samsung Wave and thinks its a really good phone (even with version 1 of Bada). Pleas take it for a testdrive.
Between these two devices? Won't happen. Comparisons from iPhone 4 to the Galaxy S, perhaps at a push.Now we are only waiting on some real head to head tests.
Back home with my new iPhone 4 nowGot to the trafford center at about 0730 and was out of the door by 1030..now just waiting for 02 to finish the sim transfer (my fault, should have done this earlier in the week) before I can actually make calls. Rest of the device works great though - the screen really is something that has to be seen to be believed..truely the best i've seen on any mobile device. The videos etc don't show just how clear and bright it is.
iPhone 4 is worth it for that alone imo..hopefully o2 will get their act together and transfer my sim over soon
Hehe yeas that was not the correct word, what I was after was hype.
No, as I stated "Yes If you need a large App store then it is not the phone to choose just quit yet" (meaning the wave)
I'm no phone geek but I do not see why Bada/Wave should not count as a smart phone. It is possible to install "full-blown" applications that you develop with C++ I do not see any differences in this comparing to IOS and Android? (See Wiki)
For me the Apple IPhone(IOS), SonyEricsson X10(Android), Samsung Wave(Bada), HTC Decire(Android) falls in the same category. It is possible to install applications, thy all got touch screens, thy all have Camera and so on.
IPhone 4 got 640 x 960 pixels on a 3.5 inches screen and Wave got 480 x 800 on a 3.3 point, This means that the IPhone do got higher resolution but you also have to count that the wave display is smaller(smaller screen = smaller resultion needed). If you buy a TV or a Computer Display, is it really the resolution that is the most important? Yes its important up to a certain boundary but after that I will want to have better picture quality(contrast/colors and so on). The IPhone screen is a Retina display that demands backlight, the Wave is a Super Amoled that do not need backlight. Its alot of factors that decides which screen that is really the best that's why a head to head would be nice.
About the storage? The wave have 2 GB built in which is enough for me, but if you need you can easily place up to 32GB memory card in it and you can switch between several if you need to. I don't see how this could be a drawback? In IPhone you will have to live with the version you buy, you can´t add memory if I got it right?
The CPU should be almost identical, the Wave should however be a bit better but probably nothing you would notice.
IPhone 4 do not got Radio
IPhone 4 do not support Flash out of the box
IPhone 4 do not support for XVID och DivX out of the box
IPhone 4 do not have 3.0 blue tooth
IPhone 4 have half the stand by time that wave got
Wave do not got gyro(which I glad of)
So besides the screen(that we not really know if its beter or not) the hardware in Wave is superior.
Apple do always ask alot for there products, Samsung is getting away with a lower price be course thy uses there own Bada OS. And I if I got it right thy also produce the phone there self?
There is already some pages on the net that compares wave with IPhone 4 so it will not take long before there will be some reel head on head. The really interesting will be the display.
Last edited by SnowJim; 24-06-2010 at 02:13 PM.
That was painfully difficult to read with the grammar and spelling errors.
Sorry, eng is not my main laguage.
Almost 70,000 apps now in the market - I agree it's no longer the divisive issue (in fact there's so many on either finding anything is.. fun). What probably is (if you care about gaming) is the lack of SD app install support pre 2.2 right now - which means limited space for apps (and thus developers have to be mindful of this). Of course we're on the brink of a massive 2.2 rollout so soon this too will be a non-issue.
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For me, this discredits you. I'm guessing your quite a big Fanbois if you're not even sure the Galaxy S could be compared to the iPhone 4... it really isn't that great a phone. The fact this guy's scored many points on your from just the Wave should tell you that.
Put an Evo or Galaxy S against it and it's interesting. And in 3 or 4 months there will be even better Android devices coming out. W00t!
Yes, yes, I'm an apple fanboy, ask anyone.For me, this discredits you. I'm guessing your quite a big Fanbois if you're not even sure the Galaxy S could be compared to the iPhone 4... it really isn't that great a phone. The fact this guy's scored many points on your from just the Wave should tell you that.
Put an Evo or Galaxy S against it and it's interesting. And in 3 or 4 months there will be even better Android devices coming out. W00t!
It's true, he is, he hates anything banana or strawberry.
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