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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    I like Vista too, but there are just too many annoying things about it... even elementary things, eg SP1 still doesn't copy files as fast as it should...

    Vista won't work on my computer... that is why I like XP

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post
    I like Vista too, but there are just too many annoying things about it... even elementary things, eg SP1 still doesn't copy files as fast as it should...

    Vista won't work on my computer... that is why I like XP
    but that's not a reason to prolong the life and sales of XP. some people still run DOS or Win9x, and i wouldn't want to have those products still eating engineering resources either

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    Yeah - and MS' are total bastards - FORCING us to upgrade an OS after ONLY SEVEN YEARS!!!!!

    Oh, the humanity.

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    but that's not a reason to prolong the life and sales of XP. some people still run DOS or Win9x, and i wouldn't want to have those products still eating engineering resources either
    That's different though... the majority of computers in use are not Vista compatible (or would work terribly with Vista)... eventually XP should be killed off, but not while it is the most popular OS in use!

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post
    That's different though... the majority of computers in use are not Vista compatible (or would work terribly with Vista)... eventually XP should be killed off, but not while it is the most popular OS in use!
    these old computers of which you speak won't suddenly cease to function, y'know

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post
    I like Vista too, but there are just too many annoying things about it... even elementary things, eg SP1 still doesn't copy files as fast as it should...

    Vista won't work on my computer... that is why I like XP
    Unless I'm completely wrong the file copy issue is a) largely resolved (I know, some people are still having it, but it's sorted for the majority of those who were experiencing it) and b) dependent on where you are copying to/from. If it's another Vista/Server 08 machine it should actually be faster.

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    i really don't get it. what's so goddamn special about xp?
    Vista won't let me do what I want to do without moaning or breaking, whereas XP will do just about everything I want it to do without the bloat.

    Now if Microsoft had any sense they should of replaced Vista business with Windows 2008 Workstation and we all could of been happy.

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by rs4847 View Post
    Vista won't let me do what I want to do without moaning or breaking, whereas XP will do just about everything I want it to do without the bloat.
    except vista is faster, so the bloat complaint is moot. shhhhh, it's a secret.

    as for "doing what i want", perhaps it's your workflow that's at fault? sometimes things change, and new (better) ways of working appear. if what you want to do is "be using XP", then obviously, vista won't do that very well

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    I think the problems Vista had with the general public started from day one with the vast majority of the tech press, rather pissed off it was late. It then went:

    OMFG it requires this <-----------> much RAM, of course i don't really understand the concept of paging (swaping) and can't see how it could be of benefit.

    OMFG games are slower, it must be vista's fault, definately blame the whole OS rather than look at nVidia and co.

    OMFG this UAC this is crap, keeps throwing up prompts, i don't understand how it works, or how it has security benefits that can still be realised by disabling the prompt, but i'm just going to say it should be disabled.

    But think back to XP, none of the badly written Apps that had had 5 years of NT to become compatabile where, lots of hardware manafacturers where forcing people to buy new hardware simply to get driver support.

    SP1 fixed none of these complaints. It was simply a case of time. XP used more RAM than 2k and a hell of a lot more than 98. The case been it was money well spent having proccesses that couldn't interact with other proccesses, a seperate kernel which reserved itself a fair chunk.

    This is no different, and the last thing MS want to allow to happen is people to leap frog vista to 7. They want to of forced all the luddites to a vista machine, so they can be encoraged onto 7.
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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    I too am with Hexxy on this one.

    People upgrade their drivers on a regular basis for things like graphics and stuff like that and they also update their AV and security software on a yearly basis yet run all this on a 7 YEAR OLD OPERATING system.

    Yes, Vista might be different and a change from what the previous operating system was like, but changes are good. I bet the guy that developed the wheel had people whinging at him before the rest of the world figured out how to use it correctly

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    in the time it took ms to release vista, there were 4 new osx releases. at £85 a pop
    Ah, but it came in a really, really nice box (or 4 of them)!!
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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    what a strange world we live in - directhex and TheAnimus united in support for a microsoft OS

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Well anyway, lets just wait see what this "official petition" says

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    except vista is faster, so the bloat complaint is moot. shhhhh, it's a secret.
    Unless you still suffer from the file copy issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    as for "doing what i want", perhaps it's your workflow that's at fault? sometimes things change, and new (better) ways of working appear. if what you want to do is "be using XP", then obviously, vista won't do that very well
    Could very well be, I use to run 95 with Program Manager for while before I got use to Explorer and I still run XP with the Windows Classic theme. I don't like being dictated too by an O/S that automatically thinks it knows better.

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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by rs4847 View Post
    Unless you still suffer from the file copy issues.
    Post SP1? Is this going XP to Vista, Vista to XP?



    Could very well be, I use to run 95 with Program Manager for while before I got use to Explorer and I still run XP with the Windows Classic theme. I don't like being dictated too by an O/S that automatically thinks it knows better.
    Took me about 6 months after XP came out to say that i'd spare the money for RAM to load a theme, couldn't see the point. But as such ram is now cheap as chips, even integrated graphics can do the glass effects, i don't see the downside.

    The other thing is MS chuck lots of money at user interface research hence the ribbion in office 2007 which once you get your head round are absolutely great. Yes your been forced to learn a new interface, based on the assumption that for most people it will let them work better (and some always work best with just keyboard shortcuts) but with things like this their often right.
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    Re: Microsoft Taking Official Petitions to Keep XP Alive

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    The other thing is MS chuck lots of money at user interface research hence the ribbion in office 2007 which once you get your head round are absolutely great. Yes your been forced to learn a new interface, based on the assumption that for most people it will let them work better (and some always work best with just keyboard shortcuts) but with things like this their often right.
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