as the Ms released the prices, for uk users i noticed it said normal price £80. anyone who pre orders it before 22nd october gets it for £50
they said only participating outlets blah blah blah
where can i pre order home premium for £50 as it said?
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as the Ms released the prices, for uk users i noticed it said normal price £80. anyone who pre orders it before 22nd october gets it for £50
they said only participating outlets blah blah blah
where can i pre order home premium for £50 as it said?
I don't think pre-orders start until July 15th
hmm?
but still where then?
All good retailers I suspect. I think there will be some e-tailers that will do pre-order schemes when you buy hardware at the same time, so look out for those!
Glad you started this thread as I (in the UK) will definatly be going for this £49 offer.
I understand, due to the lack of testing of the new (without IE8 due to the EU rules) we will get the full version and not an upgrade version for this price, which is great.
My only question (and many others) seems to be right now, what about the 32bit / 64-bit question.
With Memory now very cheap, and installing a new OS, more and more are interested in the 64-bit version (I'm running the pre relase 64-bit version now)
But there is no mention made anywhere yet about 32bit / 64bit versions when it comes to pre-ordering?
Does anyone know how this is goingto work?
Thanks.
Just as long as it comes with a full license as well.
You get both 32bit and 64bit versions in the same box.Quote:
My only question (and many others) seems to be right now, what about the 32bit / 64-bit question.
With Memory now very cheap, and installing a new OS, more and more are interested in the 64-bit version (I'm running the pre relase 64-bit version now)
But there is no mention made anywhere yet about 32bit / 64bit versions when it comes to pre-ordering?
Does anyone know how this is goingto work?
Thanks.
so no? no info where to pre order from yet?
any chances off our favourite scan or ebuyer getting it?
Thanks for the confirmation.
I guess the query of the "you get 2 discs in the same box" is confusing as when you look at the new packaging, there seems to be only room for 1 disc inside.
Don't be fooled by the size of the case though, I have a few older PC games consisting of 3 CDs and they all fit into one DVD-size case, stacked together.
Yeah, DVD's are only a few mm thick. It's impossible to say how many is in there until someone has the final release in their hands :)
Now to decide which version to get!
My only question is would this be cost effective, or would it actually be cheaper for them to sell them seperately again, but make the alternative media a freebie and suck up the cost of delivery? Seriously - how many people will actually want/need the 32 bit version? My guess is that the vast majority of people going through the retail channel for their OS purchase (ie not the OEMs selling low end machines such as netbooks) would gain little by being able to pickup the 32 bit version at the same time.
correct me if i am wrong but the pre order for win 7 is direct through microsoft.
The said list of retailers are ones that are doing the free upgrade to windows 7 if you buy a vista desktop or laptop from a date last week when it started.
Ane pre order is only available at said price between july 15th and august 14th
No, the retail boxed versions came with only 32 bit (except for Ultimate which had both) media. You might be thinking of the 64 bit version which contained most things (libraries etc) in both 32 and 64 bit for compatibility - which is part of the reason the install is much bigger than the 32 bit one.
Anyone know if the FULL version that us UK buyers are getting is an OEM, or actual full?
I own an OEM and afaik it will only work with this mobo....correct me if I am wrong!
However a non OEM copy of Win 7 appeals to me as I will probably change my mobo in next 1-2 years..
For the current US offer MS state both discs are included. We need to see if that's the same for the UK offer, but I don't see any reason it wouldn't be.
That doesn't appear to be what MS are saying - the said list of retailers are doing the upgrade pre-order offer regardless of buying a vista computer. (for example: http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...d_i=1286119011)
In the US if you buy a vista computer then you don't just get the upgrade for half price, you get it free (plus cost of media/postage).
They're the same thing and we know we're getting that version of the software. We don't know what license we will get though - could be either Full, Upgrade or OEM (unlikely).Quote:
Originally Posted by djglenn
I read on trusted reviews that the version you will get when you pre-order this will be a full retail version. I hope this is true as i am thinking of changing components sometime next year.
Since when has this ever been a problem with an OEM version? If it asks you to reactivate due to changed hardware all you need to do is phone up and say you've changed a few components but it's the same PC. Done it countless times and they've been fine with it every time. :)
It was clamped down a fair bit with Vista - although still perfectly doable.
You just need to stay within your EULA and it's fine. As long as you're replacing the parts as direct replacements for faulty ones then you're okay. Reusing an OEM licence when building a new machine breaks the EULA.
Ah ok, good to know thanks. Last upgrade I changed quite a bit including motherboard, hard drives and memory but they were fine when I mentioned it wasn't installed on any other pc and that I had reformatted.
Getting a full retail version of 7 for £50 would be fantastic though. Am I right in thinking the retail version is allowed to be on a desktop as well as a laptop?
Does anyone have an Microsoft source for the July 15th - August 14th pre-order dates? Forgive me for doubting the Hexus reports, but the US pre-order is already underway and I'm keen not to miss this! I've had a good hunt on the MS UK website though, and there's no details.
Anyone else considering the Professional edition for the XP support? I use a utility called Vuescan which is XP based and powers a film scanner worth a couple of hundred quid - not to mention a handful of old games it would be fun to be able to break out from time to time.
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/...pre-order.aspx
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* The offer begins on 15th July, 2009 and will end on 9th August, 2009.
What about using Virtualbox to run XP? At least it's free...
I think XP mode is more a taste of what's to come in future Windows releases. In 7 its half implemented and requires you to install it and set up etc. With Windows 8 I can see it being purely 64bit and then having 32bit and 16bit emulation (aka XP Mode) which would cut the kernal size drastically.
The information page has been updated to detail the participating retailers in the UK now, although it is of course possible that more may be added.
Ebuyer are on there :)
Just checked ebuyer and they are also offering OEM copies of Windows Vista with a free upgrade to Windows 7, for those of you thinking about building now...
Can we assume the price will be the same no matter where we order from? /penny-pinching
Seems to imply it will be a full version license as well:
"We recommend that you experience Windows 7 on a new PC." And no mention in the requirements of having a previous version of windows.
Now.. do I go professional or home?
edit: but then..
"To be eligible for the offer, you need to be running a genuine copy of the Windows XP or Windows Vista operating systems. "
gah.
You'd have to ask eBuyer that.
No Scan on the list??
Littlewoods on the list... currently 8% cashback with Quidco, making the pre-ordered W7 Home Premium around £45.99 if it's still 8% when July 15th comes round.
Gah, I don't want an "E" version. Also, will Scan be taking part?
Guys.
I have informed the Director's of SCAN of this, who have contacted Microsoft and I will come back to you once I know more.
Best Regards
Not sure if i've read pre-order details correctly..
On one one hand it says..
"We recommend that you experience Windows 7 on a new PC."
and on the other hand it says..
"To be eligible for the offer, you need to be running a genuine copy of the Windows XP or Windows Vista operating systems. "
So say i have a legitimate copy of Windows XP on my laptop i would be eligible to pre-order for my desktop PC?
AAAAAARRRRRR!!!!! sooooooo confusing
i started a thread asking where can i get a full clean install on home premium from and it its the offer for £50
now all this oem and upgrade business
Well, I'll give you a simple digest: The one you are pre-ordering is the full version, not OEM, not upgrade etc. There is one version so I strongly doubt it would be either of the above.
the whole legitimate copy of windows to get the pre order does that mean i have to reinstall xp or vista on my pc to pre order then go back to windows 7
As currently i am only using win 7 however i do have legit versions of xp and vista but dont really wanna have to go back to them
AFAIK no you don't - you just treat it like any other full copy. I think people are getting confused because MS said something like 'Since there will be NO upgrade version, we are offering the FULL version at the upgrade price' - I think this has led people to all sorts of assumptions.
Bit of info explaining a few things
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,3...9301955,00.htm
So i pretty much get it all, so which version is everyone going for then? pro or home premium, the idea of XP mode takes my fancy but from my understanding it has no D3D support so is basically just virtual box?
I'm going for premium myself. To use Virtualbox remember you still need an XP license - at least with 7 pro it's included. But like you say I don't believe it has D3D support so would be no good for games etc.
To clarify - you don't get a "free" XP license with 7 Pro - you get a license for XP to use in Virtual PC for the prebuilt image. That doesn't mean that you have a free XP license to use in Virtualbox etc.
EDIT - which reading your post again is pretty much what you said. I'll get my coat :)
Has there been any more news on the family edition being available here or is the pre-order discount as good as it gets?
Hopefully they'll announce either way before the pre-order ends
Well I'm hoping Littlewoods do indeed participate and at the currently advertised price of £99.99 (Professional). My plan: create an account ready for 15th July. Then hopefully be able to benefit from Quidco and any 'first order' offers Littlewoods are running, e.g. £30 of your first order over £60. That could make Windows 7 Professional around £65. :D
Why bother? You might be breaking the EULA if you use a US version and it's only IE missing isn't it? It's easy enough to download on another computer.
thats not the point!
the point is you have to download it everytime you install windows etc...with me thats quite often.
as i possibly said before, thats my virus plan, keep all work on external media (usb sticks etc) then when ever i get a virus just re install windows
I agree you should install whenever you get a virus but why do you get them so often anyway? You should use AV as a preventative if you don't already. I don't know about you but I don't use IE anyway (except for anything that needs ActiveX) so I have Firefox and other apps on a flash drive.
you dont plug the usb stick in when you know something is fishy..
also going to start and running msconfig and removing all the useless stuff from booting up also does wonders on virus removing
You don't always know when you have a virus. Please don't say you don't run AV 'because you would know when you had one' - some viruses, well most new viruses don't want you to know they are there - they hide on your PC so they can steal data etc. I'm sure most of the people on this forum would have an idea if they had a virus/how to avoid them in the first place but most of us still run AV - it's best to have multiple layers of security.
going to get Home Premium this time. i dont need extra ultimate stuff that i never use.
Home at £50 is certainly fairly tempting, particularly if we can quidco it from various places. What's the betting Microsoft Store exclude Windows 7 Pre-order from the quidco scheme? ;)
i dont get them that often, id say once every 6 month, and tbh as far as my internet use goes is facebook, hexus ,msn and online gameing (COD4 atm) as far as i know theres no need to run AV then
just if i was going to whats the best free one to run? i love kaspersky but its not free and students arent very rich these days
That's really quite often! What are you doing - using pirated software or something?
AVG, AVAST and probably others have free to use versions.Quote:
just if i was going to whats the best free one to run? i love kaspersky but its not free and students arent very rich these days
I'm very tempted by the Home Premium at £50.00. Must give the RC a play sometime.
i will get going for home premium btw.
or cheapest one thats 64bit and has got WMC for my free view card
Don't be fooled by the size of the case though, I have a few older PC games consisting of 3 CDs and they all fit into one DVD-size case, stacked together.
Yeah there is a special offer for UK users - as stated we get it for 50 notes if you preorder it from a participating retailer.
Loving Windows 7, lets hope there is a good offer/deal for UK customers!
OMG, you have no idea how much I'm waiting for 15th July, its sad.
<removed - so much as hint at illegally obtaining software again will lead to a no warning suspension. We have a zero tolerance on talking about downloading leaks. Consider this your final and only warning>
tut tut alex, surely you can restrain yourself until october, make it all the sweeter :D
Well, true. No doubt ill end up downloading it but ill hold off for as long as I can :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions
Intresting article about the different versions, curious to note home premimum will be limited to 16gb of memory, prof is 192gb lol. If you are ever going to use that much is another question mind you.
First and only warning in this thread - So much of a hint that you're going to illegally obtain software isn't allowed here.
What you do on your machines is none of our business, but there is absolutely no reason to post it on here bragging.
You can talk about Windows 7 without needing to make references to planning to illegally obtain it gents :)
Downloading yet-unreleased, licensed software is illegal.
The MS EULA maybe?
The EULA is not a law, its a license agreement.
what section of the act would i be breaking if I have legally paid for the software through pre-order and am not making any modifications to it?
Windows Vista and windows 7 "legally" gives you up to 120 days trial out of the box.
To any mods or admins, im not trying to make trouble, im trying to make sense of the accusation. I have over 6,000 posts and am a news reporter and moderator myself at techpowerup.
Which is backed by law believe it or not...
The part which refers to the copyright act:
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The Software is protected by copyright and other intellectual property laws and treaties. Microsoft or its suppliers own the title, copyright, and other intellectual property rights in the Software. The Software is licensed, not sold.
Well I'm obviously not getting anywhere with this, so I'm going to drop it becuase its got boring. As far as I'm concerned I'm not breaking any laws and not doing anything illegal and will be quite happy to do what I plan to do. I dont agree with piracy, and dont see what I'm doing as that. Thanks everyone for trying to explain it, sorry Admins you saw it that way.
You need to educate yourself then, because ignorance of the law is not a defense against breaking the law.
If you don't believe us telling you you would be breaking the law, then consult a lawyer, the C.A.B or go direct to the govnt. office responsible. Just go to someone who you do believe knows the law, unless you think you know the law better than those sources.
My final comment on this is that as far as I'm concerned unless you actually modify the software to circumvent the copy protection, ie cracks/hacks, then you are not breaking the law.
Yes we know that you don't understand the law, but you won't believe us when we say you're breaking the law by illegally obtaining copyright software and using it outside of the period for which you have a license. So go to a third party who's knowledge of the law you do believe.