Hey,
Thinking of swithching over to linux don't know what distro what do you recomend? The problem is I need to run AutoCad 2000 on my pc and want to know if linux supports it or if i need to use another program like you have to in unix (on the Mac), Im a nob but want to learn, Thanks
Last edited by tino; 13-01-2005 at 08:55 PM.
i think theres a emulator about that will allow you to do this, im not sure though
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The thing you are talking about is known as Wine http://www.winehq.org, and it is not technically an emulator, it's just an implementation of Windows APIs on top of Linux. But yeah, from reading through the app database http://appdb.winehq.org/ it looks like Autocad 2000 is supported.
Exopaladin has covered this pretty well, really. There's also a paid version of WINE called Crossover Office, by Codeweavers which has enhanced support for office-ish applications (There's a third varient, TransGaming's Cedega, for games).
Running windows apps under linux isn't a trivial piece of programming, which is why databases of compatible applications exist.
if you need to run windows only speific apps - don't change over.
there is a lot of effort in running windows apps on linux, and lots of little bugs and features most of the way through.
If you need to run windows style apps, eg: office then there are linux alternatives.
I use unix based OS's %100 of the time, however I do still have to use a dual boot laptop for visio as there is no alternative on linux
It is Inevitable.....
nob eh LOL,naughty swear words tut tut,u mean n00b heheOriginally Posted by tino
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Switch over to linux - go on
If you want to use Windows software like that then get CrossOver Office (Just search Google for it). If you want to run games then get Cedega (www.transgaming.org). Both are based upon Wine which is a Windows emulator for Linux. I use Cedega to play games and it's fine.
If you're worried about paying for them then don't. You won't regret that at all, it's a damn lot cheaper than buying Windows updates, Office updates, etc in the future! I use OpenOffice (open source office software) on my Windows PC aswell now just because it's so good, and free, and opens MS Office documents.
If you want a recommendation of a distro then well here goes:
Mandrake 10.1 : If you arn't confident and just want an "out of the box" approach.
Ubuntu : If you want a tuned system but installation is easy
Gentoo : If you want to learn how GNU/Linux works and have an ultra optimised system.
I use Gentoo - it's great, but takes a while to get into as you have to install it all by hand - it's designed to be extremely optimisable. Ubuntu is like Gentoo, they both use portage which is a system for easy package management. To install something you just type 'emerge xine' for instance and that installs xine (a video player) and all its dependencies.
If you consider Gentoo, then check out http://forums.gentoo.org first.
ubuntu uses dpkg (apt, debian packages) for package management, not portage
Yeh true, but it's still a kinda "portage like" system. Portage is a Gentoo thing. Apt is just the Debian/Ubuntu equivalent and is essentially the same as portage. Portage just compiles the code locally whereas apt downloads binarys.
Thanks, Ive decided to try Suse 9.1 as it seems the easiest for beginners...after that when im used to linux i intend to delete ms xp (stop dual booting) then change to a more sopisticated os. Thanks for all the help and i might be posting here alot in the near future...
dpkg had proper dependancy info back in 1996, apt-get made it easy to install packages a couple of years later. gentoo wasn't even started until 2002
apt is the interface which has been copied & cloned in systems such as portage (gentoo), urpmi (mandrake) and yum (yellow dog). not t'other way around.
I think you'll find that gentoo portage is a copy/clone of the FreeBSD ports system, which dates back to 1995.
Indeed.
It's all irelevant anyway. I wasn't saying apt came form portage or vice versa. They are different things based upon the same general concept/idea. It's irrelevant.
Crossover barely works for many applications.
Gentoo doesn't teach you how GNU/Linux works in the slightest! It eaches you how to watch crap fly past the screen. You'd want linux-from-scratch if you actually want to know how Linux works.
and ultra optimised system? Ha! This is simply not true, as a quick google will tell you.
Um, no. Ubuntu is based on Debian.
I suggest you also check out: http://funroll-loops.org/
Linux *can* be great - but not for the majority of users. And it really doesn't help when people say things which are plain wrong...!
Calm down.
Crossover office is good, works for office just fine.
Gentoo does teach you about Linux. "Crap" as you put it flys past the screen, woo, so what? LFS (Linux From Scratch) would also do the same thing. Gentoo has support forums, LiveCDs and an installation guide. Basically it doesn't have a graphical installer and the way you install it is down to the end user.
It does give you an optimised system - my system is faster on Gentoo than on something like Suse - just plain fact. Okay it takes time to get to that and a standard Gentoo install won't be particularly optimised, but all the help and guidance is there to do it.
Ubuntu IS like Gentoo. And so is Debian. Okay I didn't mean Ubuntu actually uses portage, that was a wrong thing to say. Ubuntu uses apt like Debian does. Apt and Portage are very similar. I won't go into the differences because I'm sure you know about them.
Fine if you think you want to post the funroll-loops.org site.
I don't see what people's problem with Gentoo is. If people took the time to learn about Linux they'd be able to use it just as well. I think sometimes when something doesn't work first time they give up, maybe like you and Crossover Office?
Ok first question....
I have set up suse 9.1 on my pc now but i can't seem to configure my printer on my pc downstairs running ms xp it seems to be goin ok until i reach the end where it says i need a user name and password this is within the printer setup manager what does this mean the 'root' password doesnt work niether does the password that i use on the pc downstairs or the password for this system. i think i have set up samba correctly as i followed the installion guide...but i might of made a mistake. Also Suse seems to have the drivers for my printer as it run's fin of this pc but not off the one downstairs. So far Im enjoying using Suse and it seems to be alot better than Ms Xp.....I can print of the pc downstairs if i boot into xp on this pc so setting should be enbaled shouldn't they??
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