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    SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Now this looks very interesting !
    http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...ill_SSD_market

    In retrospect an obvious idea that would be a much cheaper solution than a SSD. Who wants a SSD at $200, when you can get one on the mainboard for $20 ?
    Society's to blame,
    Or possibly Atari.

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Braidwood was meant to be implemented in the Intel 5 series chipsets but this was canceled:

    http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090819PD217.html

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Gah - Can't access your link. Needs registration. What was the gist ?
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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    A bit of Googling tells me that Intel removed this from the 5 series chipsets for 'software reasons'. But it doesn't say dead. Rather like DX11, it's something we may be able to look forward to.
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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Certainly a number of P55 engineering sample boards had the sockets for this, so it's a shame if it's not going ahead. The idea of being able to pre-load your entire OS into a fast NAND flash module for instant access is definitely tempting...

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    Now this looks very interesting !
    http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...ill_SSD_market

    In retrospect an obvious idea that would be a much cheaper solution than a SSD. Who wants a SSD at $200, when you can get one on the mainboard for $20 ?
    $20 for 16GB - I can't see a big difference to SSD in terms of price.

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    This is a great idea at 1/3 of the cost.

    The cheapest decent SLC SSD costs $140 for 30gb

    16GB for $20 would be enough for the OS and all core programs (photoshop, office, etc)

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Great so when my motherboard fries, I loose my data too, the advantage of an SSD is its portable to another machine.

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    Great so when my motherboard fries, I loose my data too, the advantage of an SSD is its portable to another machine.
    In this day, who doesn't already back up important data? I think people have more problems with failing hard drives than their motherboards frying to be honest. Doesn't seem much of an issue.

    This seems like a great idea.

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    Great so when my motherboard fries, I loose my data too,
    How?

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    How?
    If its built into the board then it will die with the board. If its not built into the board will I be able to pull out the memory sticks and put them into a new board and it pick up the data? What happens if the new board interleaves the memory differently? What happens if the sticks of memory get reordered? etc.

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    Great so when my motherboard fries, I loose my data too, the advantage of an SSD is its portable to another machine.

    I tend to agree - not talking about data storage - more OS and programs which worst case scenario can be re-installed or if you have an image of the original file just restored.

    And if it was a add on 'chip' would a failing mobo wipe the data?





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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    For $20 I would take the chance of it failing. It would only be a mirror anyway.

    The next system I build will probably be a core i7 or i9 with this technology.

    I am talking about the end of 2010 or later.

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    If its built into the board then it will die with the board. If its not built into the board will I be able to pull out the memory sticks and put them into a new board and it pick up the data? What happens if the new board interleaves the memory differently? What happens if the sticks of memory get reordered? etc.
    Why would you store actual data on this?.. It seems to be intended as a vast cache dump, not a mass storage device replacement. It might also be handy as a journal storage medium. But that's about it.

    Also, backups. No storage technology is a replacement for backing up your data.
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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Society's to blame,
    Or possibly Atari.

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    Re: SSD on the Mainboard ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    If its built into the board then it will die with the board. If its not built into the board will I be able to pull out the memory sticks and put them into a new board and it pick up the data? What happens if the new board interleaves the memory differently? What happens if the sticks of memory get reordered? etc.
    But your data will still be on the hard drive that it's caching.

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