come on you can do better than that, btw asus boards outperform abit in any fsb tests, reliability might be a question, we'll just find out in time, called you an abit boy cause you just keep pushing these boards in lots of threads like you are their representative, asus cs department is as good as gold for the one and only time i rma'd my graphics card, how can you even question that if you haven't used it? "yuppie throwback" - give me break, what a you 65, still trying to hold on on to something old and precious? at least i give any new things in life a chance, so stop bitching, and try to help someone like staffsmike does, not like some door to door salesman and believe me unlike your avatar says, i doubt any wife would like you - they like to try new positions, not just missionary that you try to hold on to