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    iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    If so, could i just install a modem app on it and use it to get internet on my laptop while out on the road?

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    Fair usage policy says you can't use with PC/laptop for mobile broadband. You have to pay extra for that... Plus any more than a few GB (unspecified), and they can start charging you extra per MB (after notifying you of course).

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    it's very hard to use up all the data they allow you to have under their 'fair usage policy' though, so most of the time you'll be okay

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    it's very hard to use up all the data they allow you to have under their 'fair usage policy' though, so most of the time you'll be okay
    Mobile internet (on phone tariffs) have very low "fair usage limits" (although these are not hard limits specified in the t&c). Mobile broadband (dongle for using with PC) has higher limits

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    If you can get an app to use the wifi card then you should be ok(so long as you're on the cloud network) , but if you're using the celluar network it might be worth keeping an eye on how much data you are useing. My first thought was to pop the sim card out and stick it in a USB modem but I think it's that against the T and C.

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post
    Mobile internet (on phone tariffs) have very low "fair usage limits" (although these are not hard limits specified in the t&c). Mobile broadband (dongle for using with PC) has higher limits
    I have heard that the T-mobile "unlimited" internet is the most generous, as are their "unlimited texts".
    Not 100% on o2 though, probably best to speak to the customer service and find out what they say happens and at what sort of usage.
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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    That used to be the case, but 3 now have a 15GB package. The closest t-mobile have is 10GB.

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post
    Fair usage policy says you can't use with PC/laptop for mobile broadband.
    Can they tell that i'd be using a laptop? I know it would use more data for browsing but if i stayed under the fair usage then it would fine right?

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    You don't want to be using your phone as a modem, thats where you hear the stories of people running up HUGE bills.

    T's&C's from O2 site :

    "Data Charges

    1. Unless a data or BlackBerry Bolt On is taken, your tariff will include O2 Web Daily under which data will be charged at £2.94 per MB up to a maximum of £1 per day (00:00am to 23:59pm). Once you have reached your maximum daily charge of 98p, O2 Web Daily allows you unlimited use of Telef?nica O2 UK Limited‘s Edge/GPRS/ 3G networks (as applicable to your handset), for personal internet use via your mobile phone. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes. You may not use your SIM Card:
    * in, or connected to, any other device including modems;
    * to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing; or
    * in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers.
    2. If O2 reasonably suspects you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges, impose network protection controls which may reduce your speed of transmission or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first. Data usage is measured in kilobytes (KB). 1MB = 1024 Kilobytes (KB), 1024 MB = 1 Gigabyte (GB). If Data usage is less than £1 it will be rounded to the nearest kilobyte on a daily basis, and charges are rounded up to the nearest 1p. You are billed for the amount of data that travels over the data network. Please note that your bill may include charges for re-sent data packets and packets added to control the flow of data over the network.
    3. The prices shown do not incorporate data roaming rates."

    Heres the link for full T&C :

    http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffSmallPrint#iphone

    I work for O2 now (used to work for Vodafone) and we recommend to all our customers when the word modem is mentioned that they don't want to be doing that with a phone.

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Take Note, the bottom line is something to memorise

    "when the word modem is mentioned that they don't want to be doing that with a phone."

    Modem with Phone = £££££

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    I am not sure if they can detect it technically thus if you use it carefully you should be ok
    there are things that we know we know, things that we know we don't know and things that we don't know we don't know!


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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    I would imagine that using it was a modem with Laptop/PC then the amount of Data by open web pages etc would be a lot more than opening them up on a mobile, however i wouldn't swear to this.

    in truth i honestly don't know, however I wouldn't be surprise if they "can" tell if you are using as a modem.



    Im sure some one will be able to clarify,

    Ferral has worked for Vodafone and O2 so I would be incline to follow his advise.

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    They can see your usage exactly, right down to the smallest kb of data, on a mobile it has its own variation of a browser and uses a lot less. Images get downscaled for mobile browsers hence why the pages load quickly.

    Image downscaling on a PC doesn't happen so it will use a lot more data more quickly, not forgetting flash animated adverts. On a mobile in most cases they are stopped or blocked completely by the mobile browser.

    By all means use it as a modem if you are wanting to. However, don't say that you wern't warned if you get a HUGE bill in at the end of the month as you will be liable to pay every penny of it as you will be abusing the service.

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by duongnt View Post
    I am not sure if they can detect it technically thus if you use it carefully you should be ok
    You're not sure, but they should be ok?

    Detecting if the Sim is being used in a modem is easy. There are a number of ways that the network can check.

    The most simple method is checking the browser that they are using, which is passed in the data when simply browsing the web. Then as Ferral says, certain data will not be requested by mobile browsers.
    Then there is a good chance certain data will be embedded in the phone that's specific to that network (remember those Sim updates you get?) and lets not forget that the network can send commands directly to your phone and receive data back without you knowing. Again, they could use this method to check what phone the Sim is in (They could just request the IMEI number for the device for example).
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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    it says

    Data and Wi-Fi
    Data usage whilst roaming not included. Unlimited Wi-Fi is available at any of the 9,500 Wi-Fi hotspots from our partners The Cloud and BT Openzone. Excessive usage policy applies.
    obviously wifi is free but i gather from this that data is not?

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    Re: iPhone on O2 is unlimited data usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
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    obviously wifi is free but i gather from this that data is not?
    Data usage whilst roaming not included
    Doesn't that only apply when you go abroad / use other networks?
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