Ebay & PayPal........They are taking over the world with new terms!!!

[Blitzen]

I have just been reading over at EBAY that from the beginning of April 2008, PayPal MUST be used in all seller listings !!!

What a con!
For starters, PayPal from what i have personally seen, is the LEAST protective form of payment. Its just so easy for a scammer to circumnavigate theT&C's and rob the seller stupid.

Not only that, if you are a buyer and get scammed, they make you think you can claim the cash back....NOT TRUE im afraid. If the seller has already emptied their account you dont get a penny.

Also, from a buyers perspective, Ebay and PayPal seem to want everyone to think its the only way you should deal. It just a big smoke screen as they know there is better out there. As soon as Google Checkout went live Ebay banned it saying how bad it was. They just couldnt cope with the competition.

They moved operations to Luxembourg recently to avoid any kind of legal action from sellers that are upset, that have met ALL the T&C's and still lose out. There has been a few 'group actions' and PayPal, knowing they are often flirting with the legality of their operations, did a runner to where they cant be touched.

I use EBAY a fair bit and only ever buy/sell with bank transfer. Over 150 transactions and never a problem (i try to be very careful).

This was the last straw and i closed my account yesterday.

E-Pal are so keen to make sure everyone knows they are JUST A VENUE yet still make decisions like this.
THEN to top it all off......a seller cannot leave feedback for a buyer anymore!!! So...if the buyer is scams you, you cant even let the ebay world know about it.

Rant over....sorry!

(if anyone from Ebay/Paypal reads this its my opinion and no-one elses )

[AndrewJ]

With recent changes on Ebay it is little wonder less and less people I know are dealing through them.

I feel this may just knock it even further.

[KowShak]

Is the change that you have to offer the option of paypal in addition to other options or is it going to be the only option?

If they're going Paypal only, making the cash on collection option disappear is a bad move.

[matty-hodgson]

i totally agree with you on the paypal security issues!
my mam recently bought a PC and she's discovered eBay..
she's found some true bargains on there, but i'm scared she's going to get scammed someday.. and she wouldn't really have a clue what to do.
i think they should personally let you use Google-Checkout just because people will feel safer knowing that 1 of the worlds biggest brands are handling their money and not some awful thing no-one had even heard of before eBay came along.

i also don't agree with the ease of transferring money to and from Paypal.. you only need a 6 character password and you're in!

[Blitzen]

Is the change that you have to offer the option of paypal in addition to other options or is it going to be the only option?

If they're going Paypal only, making the cash on collection option disappear is a bad move.

In some selling categories PayPal is the ONLY option.
In others you can offer multi choices but PayPal MUST be one .

[Agent]

Very worrying. I'm surprised they haven't been slapped with anti-competitive laws yet....

[Blitzen]

Very worrying. I'm surprised they haven't been slapped with anti-competitive laws yet....

I think they are using the 'Just a venue' thing to get around it.

Saying that, Nochex was banned by Ebay a while ago but Nochex challenged it in court and were re-instated.

Thing is, they arent banning all other methods on all auctions. They are just saying PayPal is mandatory and i think thats actually as bad.

[chuckskull]

Hate paypal. This is just another reason not to use eBay anymore. That boat has long since sailed IMO.

[-iceblade^]

y'all scare me, as i trusted paypal up until just now... just how bad is it?

[AndrewJ]

Not very good Iceblade, the net is littered with people who have been scammed, hacked and lost money and Paypal are very reluctant to give people back their money, and generally useless.

[Agent]

y'all scare me, as i trusted paypal up until just now... just how bad is it?

PayPalSucks.com is where you will learn about the PayPal Class Action Lawsuit, Abuse, Fraud & evil behind the PayPal system!

Make up your own mind.
Paypal are fine until something goes wrong.

I wish Google would make Gbay.

[Blitzen]

There is a new one called Ebid that looks decent enough.
Online Auctions at eBid United Kingdom : Free to Bid | Free to List | Free to Enjoy

[amjedm]

I wish Google would make Gbay.

I wish as well

I know people who've been ripped off by Paypal/Ebay buyers and I do feel sorry for them.

[Agent]

I was done myself for the tune of £15 a few weeks back. He doesn't live too far from my uni, so I'm planning to pop up there in a couple of weeks when we have a ride out on the bikes.

[matty-hodgson]

I was done myself for the tune of £15 a few weeks back. He doesn't live too far from my uni, so I'm planning to pop up there in a couple of weeks when we have a ride out on the bikes.

let me know how things go won't ya?

[-iceblade^]

i'm not going to use it... anyone know how i can close my account?