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About LinkBacksRead more.A Christmas update to Apple's OS X can make certain MacBook Pro laptops unbootable.
Read more.A Christmas update to Apple's OS X can make certain MacBook Pro laptops unbootable.
Although inconvenient for, there's a certain schadenfraude when Mac's break mainly because of those few raving mac lunatics who constantly tell everyone how great macs are. (More vocally I would argue than either the linux geeks or windows noobs)
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almost all the selling points for a Mac are gonna be void soon.
they always went on about how they never get viruses, and how it looks so good, and the fact they never break.
well..
Apple are killing their own hardware.
virus programmers are now writing viruses for Macs
and Windows 7 looks far better than OSX
and you don't have to pay £1954759373649604623903 for a Windows machine!
lol!!Originally Posted by matty-hodgson
According to you... lets not be objective about it.
Hi Im a PC
Hey Mac you ok
it just works
wait and see Jobs will announce this as a multicultural power saving feature and everyone will go "wooo wooo wooo"
Macs are overpriced. It is truly rediculous that they can charge so much for cheap hardware and cheap software (OSX is Linux FYI)...
Actually it's based on BSD, not Linux
"Cheap Software" - great! It means I pay far less for every OS X upgrade than the hundreds Bill G wants for Windows.
Can I ask - have you ever OWNED a mac?
Before you ask or say, I'm not some crazy mac lover. I have a Macbook, custom built Windows XP desktop, and a Dell XPS M1530 Windows Vista laptop. I use all three on a weekly basis depending on what I'm doing and where (even all 3 in one day sometimes). Nothing comes close to the battery life, build quality and stability that my Macbook has - but equally it can't beat the gaming performance and number of games that my desktop allows me to play. The right tool for the right task.
Biscuit (28-12-2008)
There is a difference between making no cheap computers and making more expensive ones with more features etc.
Apple don't make a low cost machine as they simply don't need to. Compare an apple to apple computer from pretty much any pc brand and you'd be very surprised. Most people just go well apple's cheapest computer is x and I can get a no name piece of crap from so and so for x. It's like comparing a ferrari to a hyundai and saying it's overpriced and isn't as practical.
As for all the comments about there being viruses, that utter rubbish. There are some trojans out there for macs, but you need to stick your admin password in after downloading and installing them. There has yet to be a single occurrence of a mass infection. Even one that has more than a handful of infections.
As for windows 7 being better looking than OS X that's down to personal taste, but frankly if windows 7 isn't better than os x what are microsoft playing at. They've had far more time and far more money spent on their os, but its pretty much just vista with a new name at the moment.
I'm a vocal mac disliker for a variety of reasons. But I appreciate the effort they put into design and user interfaces. I don't appreciate how difficult they made it for me to upgrade my flatmate's Intel iMac hard drive, but that's another story.
Getting back to the story itself, the anti-mac fanboys will love the fact that Apple broke some of their laptops with a software update. The mac fanboys can rebuke that with references to the countless times Windows updates have lead to boot failures, along with things like iffy Linux drivers overwriting EEPROMs on NICs.
And that's a fair argument... until you look at what makes a mac what it is. The macintosh is specific hardware, specced out by system integrators at Apple, to provide the experience they want their users to get from their hardware. Or to put it another way, the hardware in Apple computers is very specific, unlike the PC, where there are several orders of magnitude more combinations of hardware.
Yet somehow, come this update, Apple was able to miss a very serious compatibility issue with an older firmware, failing to make the update check for the required version. On a limited hardware platform, from a manufacturer that sells stuff that "just works", that's really quite embarassing.
I'm aware OS X will run on more or less any Intel platform now, but that's irrelevant. Apple don't give a damn if OS X breaks something on a non-Apple machine - serves the person right for not having mac hardware. But when they run into these problems on their own kit, that's not good.
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I think I'm one of these people but for me I still have Tiger 10.4.something but now it won't boot up after the update wanted to reststart, Apple will cover this right?
Wouldn't normally go for a Mac but I got it a extremely discounted price, but now its kinda peeing me off.
I believe this issue is related to leopard systems not tiger ones. So I don't think yours is related.
Well it happened after the update and now it sticks on the loading screen, I have excactly the same issues, if its not realted its quite an extreme coincidence.
Certainly seems to be a bit of an odd coincidence I agree. I would try the troubleshooting steps described here. http://www.idealog.us/2008/12/confir...cbook-pro.html
That should fix it.
but even with an external screen and keyboard and mouse how will it even get past the apple loading screen if it isnt now?
If you hit the power but then close the macbook lid it should work, apparently. Evidently running off external display prevents the software interacting with the broken bit of the firmware.
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