Macworld 2007 - San Francisco

[Stoo]

No GPS? It's a bluetooth device, so use one of those little gizmos..

No 3G - It's an American launch - they don't have 3G, so it's not much of a surprise.. I'd wait for the EU/Asia specific info to come out before condemning it.

Stupid touch-screen? Not really, it looked very advanced, I don't for a second think that you "need" to look at the screen to answer the call.. (I'm sure you look at the screen anyway to see who is calling..)

Have you ever used opera mobile? It's horrid! This looks much more intuitive..

Not everything Apple branded sells - Remember the Cube?

tbh, most cell phone OS's suck, yes, even symbian & WM5, it can't be any worse, and it certainly looks much better from first glance.

[McMav]

Price in UK convert $ to £ and maybe subract 50 quid
so 449 for 4 gb and 549 for 8 gb

[dangel]

No GPS? It's a bluetooth device, so use one of those little gizmos..

Sigh... I have that now Integrated GPS devices are springing up like wildfire now and i'd much prefer it. You might as well say carry a seperate MP3 player and your phone as well Anyway - really that's my take based on what I want - if it doesn't float your boat, no problemo. Will it run Tomtom?

No 3G - It's an American launch - they don't have 3G, so it's not much of a surprise.. I'd wait for the EU/Asia specific info to come out before condemning it.

Just evaluating it as a mobile device - based on the specs published.. If it were a WM based device plenty of folk would lay into it for the lack of 3G.

Stupid touch-screen? Not really, it looked very advanced, I don't for a second think that you "need" to look at the screen to answer the call.. (I'm sure you look at the screen anyway to see who is calling..)

You really missed the point (I have a touch screen phone now) - the one thing manus and MS have learnt is the need for hard keys to do certain jobs. A button is tactile, a touchscreen is not - hence you need to look at the darn thing to operate it. As people pointed out when an all-touchscreen iPod was mooted it's rather difficult to change track, volume etc in your pocket if you can't feel anything other than a single flat blob. Touchscreen keyboards are just horrible (always) for doing anything useful on (i've tried dozens if implementations). Text messaging with one hand?

I don't have too look at the screen - the phone announces who's calling for me (voicecommand)

Have you ever used opera mobile? It's horrid! This looks much more intuitive..

Yeah - I like it, very clever page reduction etc. Seems to get picked up by quite a few companies - must be some reason why eh?

Not everything Apple branded sells - Remember the Cube?

I think their both masters of packaging and marketing - it's just that the products don't always live up to the hype. Name one thing this phone that does that really is new? What's actually revolutionary here? What's the unique selling point to move people away from Nokia and the ilk? I've pretty much got the feature list in my current (pretty old) device now..

tbh, most cell phone OS's suck, yes, even symbian & WM5, it can't be any worse, and it certainly looks much better from first glance.

As I said - nice UI on the upside - but will a slick front end cover up the obvious ommisions in the feature set and paper over the cracks in usability? It certainly isn't "completely redefining what you can do on a mobile phone." as Apple says.. Yes I want an integrated device, but no I don't want to go back to the bad old days of Windows Mobile phones with no hard keys, no keyboard/phonepad. I saw a rather nice new phone on the way with both slide outkeyboard AND phonepad on the front - much more practical IRL.

No offence intended - and no loyalty to any brand here - it's just my honest evaluation of a new mobile phone (whomsoever manufactures it).

[Beninio]

Details emerging about who makes the innards of the iphone?
http://www.orangehues.com/blog/

[clonmult]

No MMS support (which is bizarre)
Seemingly poor battery life.
No 3G (even though the US *does* have it), which makes it a poor browser

Opera is on mobiles, Nokias S60 browser does full featured browsing.

And the camera is way behind the standard for smartphones, at least S60 smartphones, which are heading towards autofocus all the way.

This will kick Nokia and SE back into innovation.

I'll also be intrigued about the multi-touch patents that Apple possibly owns. Seems that Nintendo has some multi-touch patents, but they dropped it on the DS (darned shame).