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    Hexxeh Drives: Other peoples' cars

    It seems here on HEXUS, considering a car outside of the official Permitted Cars List will get you shouted at. Buying a small Japanese car practically involved turning in my penis and being evicted from maleness. So I have now decided to expand my giving other peoples' cars a play, partly in an effort to abuse the "drive others' cars" clause in my insurance policy, and partly to expand my horizons.

    For those now in the know, I drive a 53-plate Honda Jazz SE Sport 1.4. In brief, that's 1339 cc (not sure why it's rounded up instead of down); 4 cylinder/16 valve; 82 horsepower, insurance group 3, and gets a theoretical combined mileage of 49 MPG. In practice, given the driving I do (mostly short-trip city driving, some A-roads and the occasional motorway), that ends up at ~44.5. And it looks a lot like this:



    I've been driving the Jazz since I got it about 9 months ago, and have grown used to it. It's not a performance motor, it's not "interesting", but it does what I need it to do (go from A to B without ever going wrong).

    So. On with other peoples' cars. The first port of call is, as always, the parents. I did a lot of my learning in my mum's 1.4 Clio so I think I'm too used to it to make an objective post on here. My dad's car, on the other hand, I drove for the first time last weekend.

    So, car number 1: Toyota Avensis Hatchback 1.8 VVT-i 5d

    The Avensis in question is a little newer than my Jazz (04 plate), and has a few more horses under the bonnet (127). It was also serviced the week before. Sitting down in it, a couple of thoughts come to mind:
    • Climate Control rocks. I wish I had it. (It's in the Jazz Sport, but not the SE Sport)
    • Good lord, the bonnet sticks out a lot. (As you can tell from the Jazz pics, my car's front is a little on the stubby side)


    Actually pulling away, the main distraction is that the biting point is higher than I'm used to - but otherwise, it's smooth enough. From my parents' village, I took a short drive to the nearest supermarket, which involves a short stretch on national speed limit single-carriageway roads. Another two observations at this point:
    • The added horsepower is largely canceled out by the added weight. Whilst acceleration is a little quicker than the Jazz, most power transfer seems missing at lower revs. It seems to be happiest when driven much as I drive the Jazz, but at 500 revs lower.
    • There seems to be a really annoying lip preventing me from pushing the clutch all the way down unless I shift my foot position. I've experienced worse clutches, but it's annoying for my toes to be catching all the time. And yes, my seat is otherwise in the correct place


    And then, to the car park. Good GOD I dislike the Avensis at this point - larger cars are not meant to be parked, it seems. Especially not in the cramped overflow section of the local Waitrose. Getting out of the overflow car park involves a multi-point turn to avoid hitting either other parked cars or the thoughtfully placed wall in the middle of the parking area. In the end I give up with trying to get the thing into a bay, and let my Dad do it. Horrible.

    So. Overall? For the single added benefit I could see in the Avensis (CC) which I could have gotten in a smaller car anyway, versus niggles (clutch issues) and more fundamental problems (poor maneuverability, high fuel consumption), I reckon I'm happier with my Jazz.

    This weekend should hopefully provide a few more interesting entries, as I'm visiting the Fiancee's parents - and they have multiple cars (including an RX8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post

    And then, to the car park. Good GOD I dislike the Avensis at this point - larger cars are not meant to be parked, it seems. Especially not in the cramped overflow section of the local Waitrose. Getting out of the overflow car park involves a multi-point turn to avoid hitting either other parked cars or the thoughtfully placed wall in the middle of the parking area. In the end I give up with trying to get the thing into a bay, and let my Dad do it. Horrible.

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    That Avensis has a higher ratio gearbox Hexxeh....hence the lack of low down grunt. It's not actually missing any low diwn grunt at all....its just that the gearbox is designed to make the engine rev a tad lower to save fuel. In comparison to the Honda, it's a long legged beast.

    30,000 miles per year or more.....Avensis wins totally.

    AND on a long 80 mph journey I'd put a small wager on the Avensis using LESS fuel than yours, as it's designed for motorways, not towns.

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    what is this thread is it about cars your driving? im really not being rude just a tad tired and wondering if we are meant to post about our cars or what...

    sorry

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    I can see where you are coming from regarding parking... Sort of. I used to have a 106 - very easy to park. Now my car is as long as a mondeo estate but by a bit of techno magic is a helluva lot easier to park than one (I have tried both (mondeo is my dad's)). The magic trick is the rear wheel steering! How I dread the day when I will have to get a different car!!!

    I know it doesn't help you much with the avensis but i thought i'd share

    P.S. Mine is an old man's car too (i.e. a Honda... ...Prelude )
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    Quote Originally Posted by arbitor View Post
    what is this thread is it about cars your driving? im really not being rude just a tad tired and wondering if we are meant to post about our cars or what...

    sorry
    I seem to need to constantly justify myself for driving something that's not an audi, vw, skoda, or a mondeo/focus. these are the only permitted hexus cars. this is me trying other cars out, to try & shed some of the "well that poor idiot he's only driven small cars" crap i occasionally get

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    ahh ok good on you

    i agree the forum is pro VAG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    AND on a long 80 mph journey I'd put a small wager on the Avensis using LESS fuel than yours, as it's designed for motorways, not towns.
    On a long 80 mph journey I'd be breaking the speed limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    I seem to need to constantly justify myself for driving something that's not an audi, vw, skoda, or a mondeo/focus. these are the only permitted hexus cars. this is me trying other cars out, to try & shed some of the "well that poor idiot he's only driven small cars" crap i occasionally get
    don't justify yourself to anyone m8e. I've driven everything from Turbo Mini's to Rover SD1 V8's, 5 GTT's to a Meastro 1.6L!!. I'm currently driving a 1998 1.8 Freelander 5 door! Its big, its slow, it does 30mpg and wallows around every bend and roundabout.. but i like it.. and I can throw the puppies in the back, take them to the beach and not worry about the sand getting on the leather!

    but i've got a motorbike and the wife's 206 GTi 180 should I ever feel the need for speed

    But, its good to drive other types of cars, and to make comparisons to what you drive.. I love driving other peoples cars and bikes.. Makes me either envious or thankful for what i've got on the drive (or garage lol)!

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    its good to put 206 gti in small type

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaillum View Post
    don't justify yourself to anyone m8e. I've driven everything from Turbo Mini's to Rover SD1 V8's, 5 GTT's to a Meastro 1.6L!!. I'm currently driving a 1998 1.8 Freelander 5 door! Its big, its slow, it does 30mpg and wallows around every bend and roundabout.. but i like it.. and I can throw the puppies in the back, take them to the beach and not worry about the sand getting on the leather!
    I have that beat!

    I've driven everything from a Ferrari 575, Mercedes CL65 AMG to a Rover Metro. I'm currently driving a Ford Explorer. Twenty tons of american SUV (It's the smallest SUV Ford make). It does 15mpg on the open roads here and has a nasty reputation for wallowing itself upside down. On the plus side, the 4.0 litre engine hauls that 20 tons to 60mph in 8.1 seconds, according to book figures, anyway (but that would use a couple of gallons).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeePee View Post
    I have that beat!.....
    lol.. now that sounds like fun! but 0-60 in 8.1 sounds a bit scary in something that big!! specially if the 60 - 0 is about 20 seconds

    my only real issue with the freelander is that with my 80 mile a day commute i've got to fill up every 3 days!

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    Yikes I thought filling every 4 days on my 90 mile a day commute was bad.

    Nothing wrong with small cars, I rather like mine.

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