Aint Fiats BRILLIANT!!??

[Tumble]

Or not. Mine's just come home from the garage again - the power steering this time..... somehow, the PAS fluid had managed to relocate from where it was supposed to be, to inside the workings of the electric pump.... the chap at the garage unplugged the motor and the fluid went all over the floor. Out of the CONNECTORS for god's sake

So in the three years the thing's been in existence, it's had:

Steering rack
Front wishbones
Front shocks
Track rods & control arms
EGR valve
Stem-to-stern exhaust because the EGR emptied itself through the cat, DPF etc
PAS pump

What a nightmare of a van

[chuckskull]

Fix It Again Tomorrow. Cliché but it's true.

Only real experience I have with one was a mate who had a Bravo as his 2nd car. He(with muggin's roped in to help) spent more time underneath it than driving it, until one day it failed in a most spectacular fashion by emptying it's gearbox(literally all of it) all over an A road. Never a nice feeling watching parts of a drivetrain carry on without the car and no he wasn't ragging it or being silly, he never did; Karabashs can be very critical of your driving

Even mentioning the brand in his presence is enough to make him rather shouty to this day.

From my limited experience, my advice; flog it before something else breaks. Get something German or Japanese. Another cliché but I've never seen the internals of one become external of their own accord.

[Tumble]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.. the T is for 'Toni' It's broken today, not tomorrow!!

[chuckskull]

It's already been fixed once today...

[joshwa]

Not this one is it?
http://www.ausmotive.com/2008/10/15/...gain-tony.html

[GoNz0]

oh that sign is brill

[Behemoth]

It's Italian, I think that covers it.

[Funkstar]

But surely the beautiful Italian design makes up for those shortcomings?

[Tumble]

Yeah it would, if it wasn't a French design Those Doblos are hateful things too - you could lose entire suburbs behind the A pillars

I forgot it's had a clutch & flywheel too....

[Will404]

Wow, your experiences seem far worse that mine, I had steering rack go in the first year (not new), but since nothing else has gone. Best hope nothing else goes funny.

[GoNz0]

my chitroens had on average a trip a month to the stealers, since they found a split EGR pipe its been 3 months and i had to wash it mysefl last week for the 1st time since i got it over 2 years ago!!!!!!

the dealers washed it each time so far

[Jay]

I hated my Fiat as well... crap.

[Tumble]

my chitroens had on average a trip a month to the stealers, since they found a split EGR pipe its been 3 months and i had to wash it mysefl last week for the 1st time since i got it over 2 years ago!!!!!!

the dealers washed it each time so far

Same van, different badge I think, from a previous moan about it I totted it up the other day, it's been in the garage for mending for a total of about 2 months - it's only 3 years old with 50k on it

[sovereignv12]

Hey Tumble.

How old is your van? I ask cos they never used to have electric steering pumps, that's a brand new idea which I'm sure Fiat haven't got yet?

[GoNz0]

as its not made by fiat it has an electric pump

[DanceswithUnix]

Is that a Fiorino?

Based on a Punto, but developed and built in Turkey. People I have known with Puntos have found them cheap & reliable, so christ knows what they did to the design to make it fall apart like that!