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    Re: Winter Tyres

    I got some Nankang NS-2's which are great in the dry but omg they are just dangerous in the wet in my opinion, I am ordering new tyres as we speak, also living in Plymouth where I don't think there is actually one road without a major pothole in it I want to stay on the road. Pulling away from lights in the wet with the NS-2's just left the wheels spinning. They have a "C" rating for wet weather but I cannot see it myself.
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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    I got some Nankang NS-2's which are great in the dry but omg they are just dangerous in the wet in my opinion, I am ordering new tyres as we speak, also living in Plymouth where I don't think there is actually one road without a major pothole in it I want to stay on the road. Pulling away from lights in the wet with the NS-2's just left the wheels spinning. They have a "C" rating for wet weather but I cannot see it myself.
    Yeah I'd be avoiding them in this country

    Quote Originally Posted by autobild
    Dangerously long braking distance in the wet, wet understeer, reduced steering precision, loud and uncomfortable.

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    I never found them loud but yes to the rest of it lol, in the wet you may as well be driving on the rims.
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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Kumo's are scrubbing in ok and I'm well over 500 miles now but they're not Quadraxer's.

    However... the Del Sol on the Fate Antartika's in the rain is bloody impossible to drive quickly. It's literally horrible.

    Dry - good as gold...
    Snow - dunno... they'd need to be amazing to compensate for the wet
    Wet - horrific.

    OK the Del Sol is hard, sporty, fast and deserves to be on proper boots... but in the rain these fate's are dire.

    (Aside : took the Del Sol home.. slowly.. stomach in knots.. yes it was that bad: took 106 Rallye out of the garage on Kumo Solus and the difference was so so so vast....

    different car, different tyres... but the chasm was vast)

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Kumo Vier update:

    Droved to Shropshire on Friday night in monster rain: 60 miles of M40 and 40 miles across country... they're growing on me

    Along the best roads that Shropshire has, ones that I know very well now, the Kumo's started to work for me. It's a driver adjustment thing.... I now know the turn-in is weak for a split second.. and that's all that's weak...

    then the grip is fine, and on very very wet roads, they did very well. They also dealt well with the inevitabl;e mud and slurry from the vast amount of tractors that are out in the fields by day.

    Klebers on the back did what they always do... went where fronts went, no hassle.

    Noise is still high. Prolly always will be. But I'm not happy enough to complement Kumo on there Vier's, all bar the initial turn it.

    However.. what is odd, is that they're more stable for directional motorway lane stability than the Kleber Quadraxers. Odd... but the Klebers always felt "wandery" on motorways. These are better in a straight line.

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Kleber Quadraxer


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    Re: Winter Tyres

    just a little update bought new conmtinental winter tyres they the winter contact 790, to replace the Pirelli snowcontrol 2 I got on, the Pirelli have just a few months left, as it be on minimum legal depth.
    looked online the conti were going for £82 just delivered, got them for £82 each including fitting and balancing.

    The tyre size are 185/55/r15 82t for the Honda jazz, the back have the birdgestone Potenza, they need to be replaced as the rubber on the edge of the thread are cracking so a potential mot failure, so therefore been looking at the goodyear ultra grip 8, the hankook w310, or the vredistein quatrac 3, and maybe fit 2 more conti

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    790s? Aren't they a really old model? The new ones are 850s, and are meant to be excellent. And yes for goodness sake replace the rears as well, you do not want summer tyres on the rears with winters on the fronts.

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Are you guys just driving on these things all the time? I mean, it is still pretty warm and usually doesn't get cold & nasty until about bonfire night which is ages away.

    Have been tempted by winter tyres before, but would need somewhere to store the set I'm not using.

    Mind you, I now live on a hill so there is a good chance that if it snows I just stay home

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Are you guys just driving on these things all the time? I mean, it is still pretty warm and usually doesn't get cold & nasty until about bonfire night which is ages away.
    The wife's car has all-season tyres (quadraxers) on, all year round, but she does quite low mileage. As for cold.. well it's already hitting single digit temperatures at night/early morning, which is more or less when all-season and winter tyres start performing better than summer tyres. In a few weeks it'll drop below 7C or so and summer tyres might really start to drop off in grip. If you're an afternoon driver.. no need to worry for some time yet, but if you have an early commute..

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    kalniel yes am afraid that the 790 were available for that size, the next one the 830 were 86h not suited for me car a jazz, as its rated 82t, the local tyre fitter can only get the 790, he suggested hankook w310 and I ask for the goodyear ultra grip 8, so am waiting after 1st oct to see whether he can get them, for the price he quoted the online price are the same but the local tyre fitter matched that and included fitting.

    I been wearing the winters all year long, and they also have better grip in the wet than the summer, the rubber have changed continuously, so I think of them as cold weather tyres, mind you as you suggested I try and see if I can get the conti 830 and fit them at the front and the 790 at the back

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle123 View Post
    kalniel yes am afraid that the 790 were available for that size, the next one the 830 were 86h not suited for me car a jazz, as its rated 82t,
    86H is superior load and speed to the 82T, so you'd be fine. You just can't swap to a lower rating.

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Well you can swap o a lower speed rating (but not load); my winters are H speed rating, while my summers are Y speed rating. You just have to keep within the speed limit of the tyres (for H that's 130 mph so not a problem).

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
    Well you can swap o a lower speed rating (but not load); my winters are H speed rating, while my summers are Y speed rating. You just have to keep within the speed limit of the tyres (for H that's 130 mph so not a problem).
    Your insurance will be invalid though if you swap to a lower speed rating than the car specifies.

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    I'd agree with Kal.. don't drop a speed rating.

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    Re: Winter Tyres

    looked on mytyres website there the conti ts830 185/55/r15 82h for 85.90 each, the local fitter charges £5 plus vat for fitting the tyres each, so its £93 per tyre
    I can fit both of the tyres on the front with a different speed rating, the jazz takes t rating these 830 are h the back tyres are conti 790 they the t rated, the front are the 830 they h rating so I see no problem

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